loophole in private prisons if a facility is run directly by ice than it is subject to foya but if it's run by a private prison company, it's not subject to foya accept for the extent that the records relating to the facility are in ice's possession. that combined with the molesko and pollard are the two supreme court cases, commissioner if you're interested in following up on that, that make it essentially impossible to subject a private prison company or a private prison employee with constitutional liability. >> pollard and malesko. >> mr. libel, do you have anything? >> well i think a theme that i heard running through the panel was that one of the major -- this panel and the other panels was that one of the major tsh one of the major problems with the civil detention system is simply its scope. so i think that perhaps -- and i think that we all sort of said that and then said and we should really reduce the scope of the detention system. so i think that may be one of the things that we should do is go back and actually draw up one of those lists of the way that the detention system

and if they're foya, they are available in our foya reading room on our web site. >> so foya is the process you suggest we use? >> oh to be sent to us publicly available now. that's my understanding if the commissioner made a request for additional reports. it's quite possible that i should provide those. >> i think we're going to request those, which i think contain a lot of information relevant to this investigation. just a point of clarification your office did initially make a response ind kating that you're not going to take any further action? my hope is that you will take a closer look at these. was that a yes? let the record reflect that she's nodding yes? >> yes. >> commissioner, thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. >> ms. vin, i'd like to more clearly understand the nature of the treatment of the minors, both when brought into kugs day, during custody and after releesz. and, in particular, could you explain how it is assessments are made about what kinds of educational needs that these children may have and how those needs are being fulfilled and how you know will these things a

and they more of them can be foyaed. >> where you suggest, the process we use to get those? >> you know, i don't know whether -- oh, i'm not -- to the extent which are publicly available now, that's my understanding. if the commission made a request for additional inspection reports, you know, it's quite possible that i.c.e. would provide those. i don't know. >> i think we're going to request those. i think they contain a lot of information relevant to this investigation. just a point of clarification. i'm going to give you these documents about the complaints from the community. your office did initially make a response indicating that you're not going to take any further action at the time. so my hope is that you will take a closer look at these and do take some action on the subject that is raised here. is that a yes? record reflecting it's not a yes. >> yes. >> thank you. >> commissioner? >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. >> i'd like to more clearly understand the nature of the treatment of the minors. both when brought into custody, during custody, and after rel

the foya passed in 1966. it does not really get teeth until the mid-1970s. you get the war powers resolution which again, sort of changes the nature of the relationship between the president and the congress and you begin to get a whole series of intelligence reforms as well that begin to come out. this is slightly later than the watergate era reforms. you begin to get congressional oversight of the intelligence coast. you begin to get the courts coming into it pieces of legislation that are very much in the news today. and the last pieces that i will mention are the federal election reforms that come out of watergate and campaign finance reform. so, all of this again, we can go into some detail about what any of these laws mean, where any of them are coming from, but i think in total this is a pretty serious rethinking of american governance during this period and shows a kind of political creativity in washington that hasn't been really a recognized part of how we talk about the 1970s. many of these reforms were of course, partial reforms. they didn't solv

the foya passed in 1966. it does not really get teeth until the mid-1970s. you get the war powers resolution which again, sort of changes the nature of the relationship between the president and the congress and you begin to get a whole series of intelligence reforms as well that begin to come out. this is slightly later than the watergate era reforms. you begin to get congressional oversight of the intelligence coast. you begin to get the courts coming into it pieces of legislation that are very much in the news today. and the last pieces that i will mention are the federal election reforms that come out of watergate and campaign finance reform. so, all of this again, we can go into some detail about what any of these laws mean, where any of them are coming from, but i think in total this is a pretty serious rethinking of american governance during this period and shows a kind of political creativity in washington that hasn't been really a recognized part of how we talk about the 1970s. many of these reforms were of course, partial reforms. they didn't solv