the governor of michigan has been one of his favorite foyles for weeks now. the day before he made this trip he went on twitter and threatened to withhold federal funding from michigan because the state officials had sent mail-in ballot applications to millions of voters across the state. it was not clear what was illegal about this but he falsely claimed it was illegal. he kind of stepped on the message of going to michigan, a state where his campaign advisers are concerned about his standing, so everyone was anticipating a big showdown when he got there. he acknowledged the applauding and said he planned to come back and see the damage. when he's on the turf of one of his political opponents, he often plays nice, especially in a place that polls shows that whitmer enjoys more support than he does in michigan and it's a state -- >> but he sure likes fighting with them. in a couple minutes i'm going to have barbara mcquaid and joyce vance on to talk about the legality or otherwise of this mail-in ballot stuff. spoiler alert, there's nothing illegal about what