he was a big fraker at chesapeake -- fraker at chesapeake and driven out of the company for bad behavior. so this is a relative of aubrey mcclendon. kerr introduced legislation for the oil and gas industry every year to do away with the natural gas act until he died in 1963 from a heart attack while in office. there were other characters like john j. mccoy who's a favorite villain. he worked for the rockefellers' chase bank and was someone who for the next -- well, he worked as an adviser for nine presidents. he's part of that government that exists that's not elected, but that's always there as an adviser. had a major impact on public policy in a lot of different ways that we don't have time to go into. but he was the antitrust, harvard-trained antitrust lawyer who time and time again stepped in to get the oil and gas industry exempted from antitrust laws. a lot of the times they were just sneaking behind the scenes to do this. and, you know, it matters. this has been a debate since the beginning of our country. remember thomas jefferson wanted to have part of the bill of rights, the ri