fran, dr. greene basically told us that within screening and brief interventions there are some referral issues that you tell the patient, "this is where you may get help." what components in a community need to be engaged in support of a program such as screening and brief interventions? almost all of the components that jane just mentioned that makes up the community. you have to have the families involved with that type of intervention and screening process. eighty percent of most of the screenings that are done with the sbirt program do not lead to a diagnosis. so what does that mean? that means only 20 percent need an actual traditional treatment. the other 80 percent need everything from a prevention program that is building awareness in education to a prevention program that is looking... targeting on their particular specific needs, whether they have a... they are living in an economic environment that is very tough for them or they are a certain ethnic group that doesn't feel like they

fran, i know you've been reporting on this throughout the day. we're hearing now that there could have been this bomb and other bombs, perhaps. how close of a call was this? >> you know, the official i spoke to, erin, kept saying over and over, the obama itself was never a threat to the united states. that says one of two things. either this was in an early stage or it was made inert. when i say inert, i mean they added a substance to it so that it would have never actually detonated and exploded. it was made clear to me this was never a direct threat to me to the united states. >> and there are reports now saying there are more bombs unaccounted for. do we have any sense what that might mean? >> they were asked why if this plot was disrupted, did the president also direct agencies to take measures to stop similar bombs. we didn't understand it. well, as the official made clear to me, look, we know that al qaeda typically launches multiple simultaneous attacks. >> and chad, what is your take on whether this would have invaded airport security. it

fran, final thoughts? collaboration. i think that most of what we are talking about here is collaboration. we cannot do it alone, we have to work with our... at the federal level we're working with all our federal partners, everything from a prescription drug abuse problem with the federal drug administration; we're working with the office of national drug control policy on some of our substance abuse issues, particularly targeting young people and older adults. we're also looking, working with the centers for disease control. we're just working and working with our partners. we're asking states to do exactly the same thing. we want to give out the messages that we are trying to bring behavioral health into the primary world of health. meaning, and in a much simpler way, bringing substance abuse and mental health issues to the world of physical health. dr. greene, final thoughts? i would like to just say that promoting the community think tanks such as dc rock and other such initiatives that are there to help and provide

fran is in. fran, you're on the phone right now. i don't know if you heard any of that.ow, carol, as we learn more, the fbi has said at the press conference the explosives were in earth. what that means to me, they had either doctored them or they had been, as we suggested earlier, as part of a sting operation, they had made them and were providing them. they were confident it was never a threat. >> part of this fbi report says the public was never in danger from the explosive devices which were controlled by an undercover fbi employee. what does that mean to you? >> so, as we suggested earlier, carol. this was a sting operation and we don't know yet how the fbi identified the group, but, clearly, there was an fbi agent who posed as the individual who would have been supplying the explosives at the request of these defendants who are now charged and did not, the explosives the fbi agent would have controlled were in full strength. in other words, were never able to be exploded and, two, the agent would have remained in control of them. the public would have never been pu

cnn national security contributor fran townsend is in new york. the fbi has the bomb, what do we know about it, what are they looking for? >> first what they're looking for, one, is it petn, the same high explosive odorless that can be put in a putty used both with in the underwear bomber, abdulmutallab and the cargo plot. and so all those bombs were made by al asiri, in the process in the last few years of training others to make such bombs. can they link this back to him they want to know. is it the same explosive petn. second, one is the detonation device? we've heard over and over the detonation device in the underwear bomber is what failed to let his bomb explode. did they improve that? there have been some different things done to this particular device, and they will really analyze the detonation piece to see whether or not they believe this would have been successful. those are the two keys, what they're looking for. john, sources said to me, there's a debate whether or not they'll release the photographs of the bomb. they have them in add

i'll go back to fran for a moment. tell me the connection then. we know there is this connection between the drone attack that took out quso and this foiled plot. >> quso was the head of external operations for al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. as the head he would have been aware and directing any ongoing plotting so they have a target of opportunity over the weekend, take him out in a drone attack and you see the disruption of this plot also in time related. it was described as a one-two punch. you take out the external chief, operations chief, and you disrupt a plot and throw the organization into a little bit of chaos, which explains congressman king's remark that this is really, remains an ongoing operation. >> we could expect more information. congressman king before i let you go, when we were talking about this treasure trove, for lack of a better word of information that was coming out after osama bin laden was killed and all that material had been vetted, and we talked a lot about the drones and the panic almost that bin laden had about

fran, i appreciate it. bob baer, nic robertson, tom fuentes. thank you. >>> coming up, the white house today is insisting vice president joe biden's comments about same-sex marriage are not a departure from what president obama has said in the past. but what the president said in the past sounds different than what biden is saying now. we're keeping them honest next. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanity back to life insurance. that's why only aviva rewards you with savings for getting a check-up. it's our wellness for life program, with online access to mayo clinic. see the difference at avivausa.com. >>> keeping them honest tonight. the en sis tense from the white house that vice president joe biden's comments about gay marriage aren't that different than the stance of president obama. he said more and more americans understand gay marriage comes down to this. who do you love and will you be loyal to the person you love. sounds like the strongest endorsement for gay marriage yet so far. when asked flat out if that means

the cia worked with saudi intelligence in the operation and fran is with me now. well, she's still a member of the cia and the department of homeland security advisory board. tell me what you learned tonight. and how do we define double agent? i know in spy talk that's as good as it gets but what does it mean? >> so it really surprise us. remember when the story was breaking and we had official statements from the white house and others in the administration they were saying there hadn't been a threat to the u.s., they were confident that the would-be bomber was no longer a threat. we understand why they were so confident, they controlled him. the notion -- a double agent is when you have an agent who you infiltrate into the foreign organization and they don't know he's working for you. they think he's working for them. so in this case, al qaeda and the arabian peninsula has this guy, send me in coach. he's going to wear the new device and blow up that plane. when he makes that offer he's working for the u.s., the cia and the saudi intelligence service and he's re

fran, what are you okay about saying? >> congressman king is absolutely right. the more tactical, operational details that come out, it makes it more difficult for intelligence and law enforcement then to determine were there others besides the informant they did control who volunteered to take a bomb? did the bombmaker in yemen, presumably -- presumably, it's al siri, the bombmaker of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula -- make more than one? those of us who work these cases know the m.o. is to plan for multiple, simultaneous attacks. it would be very odd if they had just one bomber and one bomb. when the congressman says to you it puts things at risk, it puts the investigation at risk. it makes it harder for them to try and find out. sources have said to me we don't know if there are more bombers or more bombs out there. >> sources have been talking to "the new york times," who broke the story a few hours ago, and other news organizations which had the story days ago and have actually been holding on to it. >> that's exactly right. once it began to come out, the

fran, what are your hearing and what are you feeling okay about saying? >> well, look, congressman king is right. it makes it much more difficult for law enforcement and intelligence to determine were there others ebesides the inform end they did control who volunteered to take a bomb and did the bomb maker in yemen presumably -- presumably it's al siri did he make more than one? al qaeda's m.o. is to plan for multiple simultaneous attacks so it's odd if they had one bomber and one bomb. when the congressman says it puts everyone at risk it makes it harder to find out. we don't know if there are more bombers or more bombs out there. >> the sources have been talking to the new york times who broke the story a few hours ago and also other news organizations which had the story days ago. >> right. >> and have been holding on to it. >> that's exactly right. so once it began to come out, then sources are willing -- they don't feel as though they're betraying the secret, right? they just believe they're confirming something you already know. soush sources have

fran townsend is outfront tonight. fran, did these allegations surprise you? >> they don't surprise me in that, look, iran doesn't want a full-on military to military conflict with the greatest military power in the world, that is the u.s. and so it makes more sense to me that they're willing to engage in this sort of tit for tat. we've seen attacks in india, thailand, georgia, all of which are these low-level assassination attempts using magnetized bombs. it's deniable, it's limited in terms of its effect and so that they think they can get away with is a push back to western and american governments without precipitating a full-on military conflict. >> so this is out of the iranian sponsor playbook. >> right. >> but is there a precedent for targeting american diplomats abroad? that does seem to be new. >> it is new. we know going back to the '70s and '80s, the targeting of american diplomats, particularly in lebanon, was not -- did happen. but we haven't seen that now for more than 30 years. so the notion of targeting american diplomat overseas or in the cas

fran competety won indy back in 2007 and 2010.ory makes him the seventh man to win the race three times. >>> all right. we want to talk about the indy 500 with jamaal anderson one of our favorite sports experts. tell me about this. do you watch the indianapolis 500. >> i do. it's an exciting race and dario fran competety is obviously in the last six years he's won now three times. he becomes the seventh driver in the history of the indy 500 to win three times in a row. again, in the last six -- there was a crash in the last few rounds. here's the thing, there was a record 35 lead changes on this particular indy 500. ten different drivers were able to lead in the end. you saw dario, obviously his wife famous for being ashley judd. a fantastic victory for him again. third indy 500 win in the last six years. >> that's more my speed. >> you know what, it was so close and, again, with so many lead changes and also -- >> a lot. >> there was a record one degree shy of the record temperatures in indianapolis 500 -- 92 degrees, 91 -- 92 wa

president obama called and congratulated the french -- fran's new president, francois hollande last night. he beat nicolas sarkozy after a bitter campaign. hollande ran against his economic policies including controversial austerity measures. hollande favors a stimulus approach. president obama inviting him to the white house says he looks forward to working with him on a range of issues. >>> 4:31 or a few seconds from 4:31. tom kierein's here to give us the heads up on the forecast today. >> what have we got? >> it's not 5:00 in the afternoon, but it's almost 5:00 in the morning. >> i know. i didn't feel like sleeping. always good to see you guys. i never get to see you. so -- >> this morning, we're trying to see some of the sky, and actually there is a little break in the cloud cover. there is a live view from our h.d. city camera. there's the washington monument and yeah, there's a few breaks in the cloud cover. you can see a little of that post super moon now in the western sky trying to shine through in a few locations. and as we take a look around the region. now reagan national at

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fran, do you have confidence in the afghan forces? >> i think the key they're not raising questions in is corruption. not only have dealt with the corruption but the weakness of the karzai government there. >> that gets to a soldier's willingness to fight for a government. and if they're building a mcmansion in kabul, the foot soldier isn't going to want to fight for that person. >> that's exactly right. so we haven't very effectively dealt with the corruption problem up until now. that was true in the bush administration. it's true in the obama administration. partly because we don't want to talk about it. until we address this directly with the karzai government, we're not going to solve it. the timeline now is getting shorter and shorter. >> there are allegations about members of hamid karzai's family involved in corruption as well. more with the panel coming up. coming up senator john mccain weighing in on the trip to afghanistan. whether he sees it as the president spiking the football in the end zone. ♪ under blue moon i saw you

outfront tonight, alex berenson author and reporter for "the new york times" and fran townsend, cnn'srs of -- member of the cia. thanks to both of you for coming on to talk about this. this is a race against time, you're saying, alex. because he thinks he could get killed? >> this is as close to a movie as you can have in real life. he knows we are after him. he knows we have the power to hit him with a drone at any time if we can find him. and he knows that he may only have time to get one bomb out there onto a plane. if he can get that bomb onto a plane from cairo or nairobi, hundreds of people will die. so we have to get to him before he figures out how to get that bomb on that plane. >> fran, you were saying that one bomb was found even before he had this pressure. traditionally he's been known to do bombs in clumps, more than one. >> al qaeda is known for multiple simultaneous attacks, so rarely do they launch an attack where they only have a single bomb. so one of the concerns of investigators now in the intelligence community is were there other volunteers to carry more of thes

we're going to talk with fran townsend.ig story, mayday protests across the country and around the world, the occupy movement is behind the demonstrations. in other countries crowds taken to the streets to mark international workers day. live reports from here and overseas. >> one year ago, an elite team of navy seals raided a compound in pakistan and killed the most wanted man in the world, osama bin laden. now we are learning about new possible threats including the use of bombs implanted inside the bodies of terrorists. i want to bring in our national security contributor fran townsend. tell us about this new information concern now that you have people implanted with body bombs boarding flights headed to the country. >> reporter: we heard about this threat a year ago, and there was some concern. now i think we're learning more from the raid, from the documents found in the raid, and we see that there's on the eve of the anniversary there were warnings issued that there was continued concern about targeting western aviat

fran, this is something people have been worried about, somebody with an implant device, perhaps a bomb. >> we saw an aggressive response because what we've heard for months from intelligence and law enforcement sources that they're really worried about this because they heard this threat stream. this goes back to yemen, the al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. the bobmaker is al siri, responsible for the recently foiled plot we've heard so much about, and this is a device, we haven't seen it happen yet, haven't seen an implanted device explode but we know from the 9/11 commission not to have another failure of imagination so they take this threat scheme seriously. they saw no evidence of recent surgical marks but couldn't take the chance they missed something and scrambled two f-15s and put it in bangor, maine, which is consistent with what the protocol would have been with a flight coming in with a threat from europe. >> is there anything turns out not to be the case, no recent surgical marks but if you're the crew on that plane i assume you have basic guidelines if somebody says they h