fran francis and others and those are nice statistics to look at and have comparative things but as commissioner antonini pointed out some other hospitals are different animals and maybe are apples and oranges. but from that standpoint the city needs to drive what the level of care should be and not rely on other examples, stamford or marin or whoever else. and that's where i think we're lacking that overall kind of health care master plan that has been discussed earlier this year and earlier last year and since we don't have one, we don't have a kind of mechanism to kind of hold all the hospitals to the fire in some respects. so i think that if we can kind of through health care and through the mayor's office look at that and, you know, i'm quite comfortable with the mayor's numbers though sometimes i think we should operate from a position of strength. and that's why i don't like the word "ask." when i saw that in the paper, i thought ask, ask what? we should be demanding these things. they should be requirements. cmpc should be using the word "ask" because they're asking the city for all thes