she also met fran meyer, a co-founder of match.com who was one of the advisers at the women's start-up lab, and she and fran -- fran saw her vision and said is, carrie, i want to partner with you, i want to scale it, i want to make this into a billion dollar company. so now fran meyer is her co-founder and ceo and actually carrie, who's the techie one, is the cto. and they've spread this company now into 40 different markets across the country, and it's booming. so again, going back to the collaboration, the sisterhood of, you know, finding the people who are going to help you to not just scale your business and find investment, but to build that confidence that you can do it, you're not alone and you have this network of support. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> a look now at some of the authors recently featured on booktv's "after words," our weekly author interview program. talk radio host mark levin warned against federal government expansion. "wall street journal" writer and former editorial page e to have george malone -- editor george malone. and