and hall of fame quarterback fran tarkenton is in atlanta this morning. tebow's in dallas. nice to see you. it was great to read your op-ed, mr. tarkenton, because i thought it was so fascinating. i want to run a little bit of what you wrote, which was the question about does god have a dog in the fight when it comes to who wins on the field? tell me a little bit about your experience. because i would guess everybody is praying in the locker room and gets very religious right before the game. >> well, you know, most football players are superstitious. we put on our left shoe first rather than the right shoe, if we've had some success and we won the week before. so you get the same patterns. and nobody wants to alienate anybody. they want to go out with a pure heart and a pure soul. i don't think that anybody believes that god has a part of winning or losing. and certainly there were 43% of people in "the new york times" that said on sunday that thought there was divine intervention going on in tebow's life in football. i think it was proved differently sa

. >> i'm joined now by pro football hall of famer fran tarkenton. one more customer.com. you said, this guy was such a guy -- >> forest gregg, one of the greatest players that ever lived. smart, with the great green bay packer teams. and back in those days, we didn't understand the protocol of concussions. i got concussions and i would go off on the sideline, get my wits back and go out and play again. >> you have your bell rung. >> yeah, but see, that's the problem. because now they are doing a such better job. and the protocols they have, you have a concussion, it will heal but if you go back and get hit in the held before it does heal, then that creates all kind of problems now and in the future. >> it's the repetitive nature. this is ahelmet, this kind of helmet here. does modern technology like this help at all? >> i think it hurts more than it helps. we weighed about 10% of the weight of this hall melt here and we didn't -- you couldn't use your helmet as a weapon. this is a weapon. this is a big helmet and they teach these people to hit with

jon: fran tarkenton, great to have you on. still waiting for the stories about my dad, fran. >> oh, jenna, i've got a lot of them. the great general lee. thank you. jenna: thank you very much. we're going to turn back to politics, but is tebow going to endorse a candidate? he could be a factor. jon: one of the most popular -- i think rated the most popular athlete right now in an espn poll. jenna: any candidate would like that. jon: you know it. hey, most of romney's rival are waiting on a key legal decision in virginia. have you heard about this? they have having trouble with the fundamental requirement of running for public office, getting on the ballot. jenna: that's a big one. jon: yeah. gotta try that. plus s the mainstream media giving the obama administration a pass? what reporters are saying or not saying about a book that says it's detailing what's inside the white house. ut from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-

. >> dave: fran tarkenton, inducted into the hall of fame, and threw for 342 touchdowns and a contributor have you on the program, a great piece in the wall street journal, asking a credit, if god get credit for the win does he also take blame for the defeat. an interesting look at all of this. 43% of people in the poll said that divine intervention is helping tim tebow in the football field. is it? >> i don't think so, but you know, sometimes you wonder, don't you? this is the most unique story ever in football. there's never been a tim tebow. i mean, he's not a prototype type quarterback, he's a college quarterback, a runner, he doesn't throw leak quarterbacks do and all about the passing game. and he comes from a very religious family, and these people are evangelists and he's been a great christian role model from ledge to pro and says the right things ands' to be enjoyed. and this whole run is unbelievable. and after the things he's done this year, to bring the team back from the throes of defeat to win. we start thinking, is there a devean intervention here, something going on that

alisyn: on the show, we have south carolina congressman joe wilson and pro football hall of famer, fran tarkenton. >> steve: let's hope they show up, because it's friday the 13th. we've had this black cat go that way and that way a couple of times. >> eric: i'll see you at the five this afternoon. over america's money is coming right now. president obama requesting an increase in our debt ceiling. total u.s. debt passes the $15.2 trillion mark. we have never been there before. good morning, everybody. on a friday. i'm bill hemmer. welcome. martha is out. welcome back to you. how are you doing? >> i am well. friday the 13th means nothing. i'm arthel neville. president obama has sent his formal request to congress to raise the debt ceiling again. bill: this time, 1.2 trillion which is sure to recoke fuss america's attention on runaway debt. stuart varney from folks business. good morning. is there a certainty that the debt ceiling will rise or can republicans stop it? >> after the mess last year an agreement the increase in the debt ceiling would be virtually automatic and so it is they may pass a

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