our discussants are harvey rishikof and fran townsend. i would try to figure out if i go through their bios, but then i realized they held collectively together every single job at the department of justice and the fbi going back to 1910. of [laughter]. in harvey's case. [laughter]. in fran's, not quite as long. instead what i thought i would do, i would let them introduce themselves. i want to tell you one thing about each of our discussants. first about harvey, and you know i'm going to have a hard time limiting myself with harvey, so i am limiting myself to one thing, he is a public intellectual. he is an idea person but, when i think about harvey, i think about teddy roosevelt, not hunting or doing all those, not that aspect of it, but i'm thinking about the man in the arena. here's a person who is an idea guy, and a thinker, but he has the courage and the guts to get in the arena and try to implement those idea. that's what a public servant does, so that what harvey is, and he is a public servant, so thank you, harvey. fran, we tend

. >> cbs news senior national security analyst, fran townsend was adviser to george w.h. >> reading between the lines it seems there is some reason to be concerned to implement new procedures. >> you don't put an emergency order in lun yees have real time information suggesting there is a current threat. >> reporter: the order reflects continued concern about bombs hidden in electronic devices that may get past. and comes on the heels of a failed plot to bring down an airliner saskatchewan upper. military grade explosive shipped from turkey was discovered before it could be detonated. there is no new threat. amplifying out of the australia incident with the threat stream, prompted this action. >> kris van cleave breaking the story today. kris, thank you. up next here, presenting a sequel to the oscar fiasco. hold together. a little to the left. 1, 2, 3, push! easy! easy! easy! (horn honking) alright! alright! we've all got places to go! we've all got places to go! washington crossing the delaware turnpike? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money sean saved by

our discussions are harvey and fran townsend. i was trying to figure out if i would go through their bios but then i realized they held collectively together every single job at the department of justice in the fbi going back to 1910. in harvey's case. in fran's not quite as long. so instead what i thought i would do is let them introduce themselves. but i want to tell you one thing about each. first, about harvey and you know i'm going to have a hard time livi limiting myself with harvey. he's an intellectual. he's an idea person. but i think about teddy roosevelt, not hunting or doing all those -- not that aspect of it. but i'm thinking about the man in the arena. here is a person who is an idea guy and a thinker but he as it curage and the gut to get in the arena and try to implement those ideas. that's what a public servient does and that's what harvey is, he's a public servient. fran, we tend to think these days that department of justice geared up for national security after 9/11 and with the formation of the national secur

. >> reporter: cbs news senior national security analyst fran townsend was a homeland security adviserdent george w. bush. reading between the lines here, it sounds like there is at least some reason to be concerned enough to implement new procedures. >> you don't put an emergency order in unless you have real-time information suggesting that there is a current threat. >> reporter: the order reflects continued concern about bombs hidden in large electronic devices that may get past some screening equipment and comes on the heels of a failed terrorist plot to bring down an australian airliner last summer. a military-grade explosive shipped from turkey was discovered before it could be detonated. now, the t.s.a. says there is no new threat but "amplifying information out of that australia incident when coupleled with the existing threat stream of evidence prompted this emergency action." jeff? >> glor: kris, thank you. up next here, preventing a sequel to the oscar fiasco. cancer that has spread to other parts of her body.h is breast she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromata

. >> reporter: cbs news senior national security analyst fran townsend was the homeland security adviser. reading between the lines here, it sounds like there is at least some reason to be concerned enough to implement new procedures. >> you don't put an emergency order in unless you have realtime information suggesting there's a current threat. >> reporter: the order reflects continued concern about bombs hidden in large electronic devices that may get past screening equipment and comes on the heels of a failed terrorist plot to bring down an australian airliners last summer. a military-grade explosive shipped from turkey was discovered before it could be detonated. the tsa says there's no new threat but "amplifying information out of the australia incident when coupled with existing so-called threat streams of intelligence led to this emergency order." kris van kleave, cbs news, washington, dulles national airport. >>> coming up on "cbs this morning," the flu epidemic has now killed a 6-year-old child in west virginia. we have vital information about how to protect your children. >>> p

fran townsend more than any of the person except perhaps the attorney general janet reno was responsible for transforming the department of justice from an law enforcement department exclusively to a national security and law enforcement department in the 1990s. she did that when she was the director of the office of intelligence programs, i work with her on a daily basis back then pics of this is firsthand evidence and testimony. so for that, fran, for preparing the united states and the department of justice, thank you. so i'm not going to turn the mic over to harvey to conduct the interview. let me make one technical note. both of our discussants are here in their personal capacity. you know where they may work in the daytime. they are not here in that capacity. they are just random people we picked off the sidewalk to come in today figure speaking only in their personal capacities. and fran, bless her, is quite under the weather. she normally has a drill sergeants bark, but you will not hear it today. thank you. >> thanks so much and thank you for those remarks. i think what we're go

townsend, the former homeland security advisor to george w. bush, on national security issues. she spoke at an event held by the american bar association for close to an hour. >> as you know, fran has just joined our committee and was able to have the 702 passed. [laughter] past, ie 702 was just am wondering what your senses of how the bill has been passed and what your senses on the compromise and whether they have hit the right mark. frances: there are a lot of friends and former colleagues in the room so it is a privilege to be with you today. i expect that the bill will pass. i think we are on a ramp that the legislation should get voted in the senate on tuesday. will mitch mcconnell allow amendments, not clear, i think not. despite thesed president's tweet yesterday morning. this roomople in understand, but what most americans do not understand, when you hear the privacy and civil liberties debate, i get why that is important during most people do not understand that have not worked inside the community is the many layers of protections that are inside the system, not just inside the fbi, yes they have an internal system of checks and balances, they also get reviewed by th