fran unsworth, who at the time of the period where carrie was given her china job, fran unsworth wasarrie gracie. at times very emotional, and sometimes very angry, as well, expressing her view about management at the bbc. we will return to that a little later on. two other news... theresa may has tackled her critics. she responded to questions about the future as prime minister saying "i am nota future as prime minister saying "i am not a quitter". robert bryan reports from shanghai. who would have thought this was a prime minister on the rack? theresa may has come to china to talk trade and first up in the city of wuhan that means education. good arguments on both sides. uk schools and universities are here, english is the second most popular language in china. prime minister, i welcome you. nice to see you. but still there was no escaping the sense of a leadership crisis around every corner at home. even before she landed, she had to address that talk journalists travelling with her. first and foremost i am serving my country and my party. i am not a quitter and there is a long—te

fran unsworth. surprised because we had looked at this year before when james harding instituted the cost of talent review which we had started in 2016. and we knew there were discrepancies and particularly among the highly paid men. i think about 17 people in news on the list, just over 20 on the list, 17 i think men and seven women. so we knew that we have a problem. and we said about at that point thinking about what we we re that point thinking about what we were going to do about this. this was when we started to think that we needed rather than put a burden on the licence payer of addressing it in the direction of paying women more, we decided we would try to cut pay off some of the senior men on the list. this is when we spoke to john humphrys and instituted conversations with the number of others as well. of course it is difficult because in order to achieve a pay cut from people they have to volunteer to do that. and thenit have to volunteer to do that. and then it became a wider issue beca

director—general and his deputy anne bulford and the head of news and current affairs at the bbc fran unsworthicipated session earlier this afternoon with the bbc former china editor carrie gracie. she resigned of course from that particular post because of unequal pay and she was in a very long session alongside the head of the nuj. so we were listening at length to tony hall and his evidence there because that was in response to much of what carrie gracie had to say. that is in front of the digital media sports select committee in parliament. our media editor is here. you have been listening to a lot of evidence this afternoon. there maybe people just lot of evidence this afternoon. there maybe peoplejust picking up on this who did not hear what carrie gracie had to say at the start of the afternoon. hard to do still a lot of evidence but some of the key points, the key issues that have stood out for you? well it was a strange afternoon, it started off with some explosive testimony from carrie gracie. and then this kind of bureaucratic lot of noise we've had from tony hall more recently and

fran unsworth is the bbc‘s head of news. for sometime before that. comes to pay in news, gender is not don't think that's quite what the report says. systemic gender bias in the way that pay has been set. and women's pay. set somebody‘s salary. for anyone who can show that they are a victim of it? without having nightmares. in some cases. that there is an equal pay issue. but there is no systemic issue. where there is a gender issue? then we will have to address that, yes. discrepancy, because the gender pay gap is not the same as equal pay. that is two people in the same job earning very different amounts. because of that person? be open to debate as well, of course. was much tighter. more men, or a disproportionate number of them? from whom to choose. for all sorts of social reasons. and that is something that we have to address going forward. did you not think, that looks strange, that looks a bit weird? yes, we did. we very much did, yes. to a point, it was sort of within a framework. light on that which needs to be addressed. that looks a bit weird! you could have said that at any