>>commissioner francesca vietor: maybe i missed this. is this going to last forever, this excessive charge issue or is this time bound? >> no. i don't recall there is an expiration in here but we would definitely bring this back for rescindance if there is an end to the drought. >> we have to bring this to the board if there is a mandatory restriction. >> this is in response to them. we have to take an action to remove it. >> okay. that's not going to be an issue because there is no reason that they would, if one of these big users expands their property or they get an expanded use permit, what would happen with something like this if they start to use additional water? >> actually what i truly expect to have happen is if as you implement conservation, it generally takes and it takes, unless you are going to the point of distressing plants, if you are making changes to respond to us and practices that respond to pressures of conservation, that's what we've seen historically through the whole area that capital use goes down. >> for practi

>>commissioner francesca vietor: there is all this data with --? >> the requirement is no more than 25 percent i am pefrs, you must replace with per views and that was a specific concern about that because we didn't want the hard scaped look. they do not rebate for artificial you turf either. thank you. >>president vince courtney: are there any public comments on the bough bawsca update? seeing none. madam clerk next item. city clerk: items 9. consent calendar. all matters listed here unconstitute a consent calendar are considered to be routine by the san francisco public utilities commission. >>president vince courtney: i'm going to request to remove item e and to be placed on the next agenda. >> sorry, you would like that removed and carried over to the next meeting? >> yes, sir, please. anything else commissioners? >> yes, commissioner torres. >>commissioner art torres: i would like to abstain on item b. >> okay, we will remove b? is that your preference? >> i'm just not going to vote. >> so moved. >>president vince courtney: it's been moved and

>>commissioner francesca vietor: yes, i would like to respond to that because i have been interested in some of these questions too especially around the generations piece about the rim fire and the importance of redundancy in our system and what it might look like especially as we start to lose power capacity. i would love to hear at some point a deeper conversation particularly on the potential for some distributed generation not only in the energy sector but also in the water space and what that might look like to have some, i noticed the puc building, the model with the living machine system, but what else might be some opportunity whether it's new developments coming online and taking it to the next generation of distributing the generation either the generation or distribution of water and energy. >> we can do that and we were talking a little bit about emergency response and recovery which we have shelves full of plans that we use and talking about decentralized treatment and inter generation al. well rim fire, we were able to bring it to the customers need. for our water, we

>>commissioner francesca vietor: i have a question. i love this idea that the youth are getting exposed to different career opportunities through these learning projects. i also love the idea that they are getting some experience on the presentation and work that they have done. i'm wondering if this can involve in the strategy because even if they don't end up being a civil engineer or work for the puc they can develop skills around presentations and i know we are going to hear from a couple of the youth, so i'm looking forward to that and i would love for that to continue to be an opportunity that is presented as well. >> definitely. where the staff have done an amazing job is that they have taken the time to pause between last summer and this summer and say what worked and what didn't work. we know we wanted to have a much clearer tie to making sure that all people whether you are in an internship program or one of seven vehicles that all of them have an experience and they all have a tour of the facity and they have an equal sxoent