. >> francey, i want to stay with you.our book, "reading like a writer" you say your taste in reading had to do with the limitations i was discovering day by day, the brick walls of space and time, science, and probability to say nothing about the messages of speaking up from the culture. i like books like pippy long stalking and little women who are not excluded from the pleasures of male attention. i wonder if the panelists can talk a little bit about the way you become a reader growing up as a woman, as a girl, and then a woman, and how that conditions, if it does at all, how you write. >> well, i'm shocked to say i used the word "plucky". karen and i were talking about how we hate the word. how mortifying. [laughter] >> i think it's fine. >> well, you know, it is true those children's classics and so forth, i mean, i remember reading "little women," you know, joe, don't marry the professor, what are you thinking? literature is great that way and up credibly useful. now when i look back there's plenty of books i loved b