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joining us to talk about it is francine katsoudas, cisco executive vice president. right, nobody has to come back to cisco's offices if they don't want to? >> the world of work is to o dynamic to have one approach for all employees. what we are doing at cisco is empowering our teams to make decisions about how they work based on the work that they do and the personal preference of the team. over the last few years, we invested in the capability of our team. we believe if we get teams right, we win. we will decentralize that decision and trust our team to figure out what works. we will take it in three-month increments. we have teams decide how they want to start. they will work for a few months, assess, then tweak the model. the innovation and agility we bring to technology we have to bring to the way we work as well. emily: so if somebody said right now, i don't want to come back at all five days a week, that would be ok at this moment? >> what we would say is a team leader facilitates the team in talking about how the team should work. depending on the work, some