francine philando castile started as a criminal barrister. what made you switch?i love being an advocate and perhaps think i am still an advocate. i was in the criminal and civil bar and i thought, i will do this commerce thing, and i will go back and become a commercial barrister. and, it sucked me in. i never went back. the speed of change, the impact, the global nature, the challenge of it just never stopped getting more and more infectious for me. so, that legal training, has it been useful, yes. has the advocacy theme been more useful, probably, but it has just been the best journey. francine: do you have bad days, who do you call? >> ghostbusters. if i have a bad day, i have been a half full kind of person. every belief i have is that you make the best out of those tough days. of course there are tough days, of course there are days when you put a challenge in front of you where performance is in grade or where i feel like we could have done a better job. those are moments where you've got to move forward. you have to take the next step forward. and that's w