francis chan joins us now. it's really great to have you here.applause] in your earlier, francis, you had a lot of trials and tribulations and your mother died in childbirth. your stepmother died in a car accident. you know, i think about all of these things, your dad died when you were just 12. this is enough to make most people hate god. it did not cause you to hate god. why not? >> you know, i had an understanding of the bible and what jesus taught, which is that you will have pain on this earth. he promised that. we live in a fallen world, there's going to be pain. so for me, i understood that look, he didn't promise me this easy life, he said it's going to be difficult because of the fall it's a world that we live in, but for me it actually caused me to cling more to god. because as a kid when your mom dies, your stepmom dies, your dad dies, you just realize, man, life is going to be over any second and it's not about this time on earth. i mean, my life could end now before the show is over. >> mike: i hope not. >> i hope not, yeah, but you

. >> francis chan left the cornerstone community church in california and authored four best selling books and spreads his message on the streets of san francisco. francis jan joins us now. it is great to have you here. [ applause ] >> earlier francis, you had a lot of trials and tribulations. your mother died in child birth and your stepmother died in a car accident. i think your dad died when you were 12. this is enough to make most people to mate god. it did not cause you to hate god; why not? >> i had an understanding of what jesus taught in the bible. you will have pain on the earth. we live in a fallen world and there is pain and for me i understood he didn't promise me a easy life. he said it would be difficult and because of the fall it is it a world we live in and for me, it caused my to cling more to god. as a kid when your mom and step-mom dies and your dad dies, life is going to be over any second and it is it not about this time on earth. my life end now before the show is over. you start to think that way and go i got to know what this is all about . caused me to search