when wall francis collins was freaking an email collins was upset that the like leak hypothesis had notn debunked and asked for more public pressure to put it down. now the fbi and the primitive energy leave that this virus that killed about a million americans emerge from a chinese lab tony fauci wants everyone to throw up their hands and say. >> do you think will ever know how the pandemic ever originated? >> it very well might not we may never know that's unfortunate but that is the possibility that we might not know. >> laura: one oh how things have changed how convenient this point. for tony and his pals in wuhan. even more disturbing is that we still have people portrayed as unbiased experts on television who to continue so i guess continue to encourage the very research that led to global suffering. scott used to be the fda commissioner, but more importantly is on the board of pfizer. ironically he is chair of the regulatory and compliance committee. >> still wondering if it's a lab leak i think we should work on the assumption that there is a probability that it was a lab leak a

meanwhile, francis collins was freaking and an email to faucis collins was upset that the lavallee hypothesis still hadn't been debunkedot and asked for more public pressure to put it down. >> well, now that both the fbi and the department of energy amereve that this virus that killed about a million americans emerged fromts every a chinese lab tony fauci sheds wants everyone to throw up. their hands and say, well, what do you think? ever know >> we'll ever knowe pa how the pandemic originated?>> >> might not.t we m it very well mightay, but we mae not ever know.e poss that's unfortunate.ib but that's the possibility that we might not evewer know. ngs have oh, how things have changed. how convenient at this point.t thfor tony and his pals. and juhan now even more disturbing is that wehave still have people portrayed as unbiased expert on television who we should continue to , i guess, continue to encourage the very research that led to globalarch tha sufft scott gottlieb used to be the fda commissioner, butof more importantly, he's on the board of pfizer andir more ironically, he's chair ofes

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francis collins, the former director of the nih, is now a special projects adviser to the president onpoke to him earlier this week, befor. >> welcome back to the newshour. >> glad to be here with you. amna: we do not often get to talk about hepatitis c, but it does disproportionately affect certain populations. who is most at risk and why? heo the blood. there were baby boomers who got the transfusions back before we knew how to test for the virus and they are infected and do not know it. more recently it is often times people who share needles tattoo needle could be the way this passes, and it can be passed from mother to child. it is a mix of folks. many of them in it marginalized communities who do not have great access to health care, is one of the reasons we need a program if we are going to take advantage of this historical moment. we can hear th amna: when you talk about testing, you noted 4 of people do not know they are infected. why the barriers to testing? >> it is complicated and expensive and the logistics are not great. the test requires going in one time to see if y ant

francis collins wrote a blog post about it in march 2020. it had a large impact. at the time, people didn't know that it first started being formulated in discussions between scientists and top government officials. host: if you want to join the conversation, (202) 748-8001 for republicans to call in. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independent, (202) 748-8002. jimmy tobias is our guest. the headline of his piece from the nation, unredacted nih emails show effort to rule out the lab origin of covid. that is what we are talking about. jonathan from old bridge, new jersey is up first. he is an independent. caller: i just feel like, you know, this person is using a lot of loaded language, saying it is unnamed experts of an unnamed expertise, not saying how many. wouldn't there be a good reason why they would say it is not a lab leak? we have plenty of people, elected representatives in the country who are saying things like jewish people control the weather with space lasers. i don't think that should be used as an example of an expert or anything, right? guest: there wer

and former director of the nih francis collins. in 2011 they wrote, quote, generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory is a risk worth taking. they took that risk and it looks like the worst pandemic in a century is the result. we'll lay out the evidence pointing to the fauci experiments. a document from within the nih itself is all but an admission of guilt. the two agencies of our government with the greatest expertise in the precise science needed to make a judgment confirmed in their view the virus did leak from the wuhan lab. then this. from the director of the fbi, which he reminded us has -- >> professionals, analysts, vie roll justs, micro biologists et cetera who focused specifically on the dangers of biological threats that include novel viruses like covid and the concerns in the wrong hands bad threats those could pose.e >> what was their conclusion? >> the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan. >> we are still waiting fo

farrar writing to francis collins, remains very real possibility of lab passage in animals. and he thinks it's a 60-40, farrar says he thinks it's 50-50. there's nothing to do with trade secrets many if that redaction. this is february 2nd. this is when they're understanding that they funded this dangerous research, and now they'rerc into cover-up mode. here is what we got in our production, the heavyon redactions. this is what was released under foia. now, if this was released urn the b -- under the b, b5 exception which is privileged information within or between agencies. again, this is with jamie farrar ofam the welcome trust. so we had redactions with, you know, y privileged information that didn't apply, and we still had it recontacted. i don't have time to get into that, but this is completely inappropriate. and by the way, we're down -- you have produced 350 pages to us in the reading room. for over a year, we've been asking for the last 50 pages. this is what the 50 pages look like, okay? now again, i would argue congressional oversight should not be subject to the

think we are going to see a lot more of these revelations, 38 years he recorded along later with francis collins of nih billions of research grants to researchers and labs and i think he had a monopoly on the narrative and all of these researchers kept quiet when he flipped on the travel ban, flipped on mask, flipped on natural immunity, flipped even on now on the origins of covid. they didn't say anything, that monopoly is over with in his retirement. now i think people are going to feel liberated and come out and tell the truth. you know, he was also not voratious about his own role, if he tried to avoid statutes against gain of function research by channeling a grant through echo health to the wuhan lab, if that was resulted in an engineered virus that's caped, i don't have to tell you what the consequences would be to his reputation. that is the sub text of all of his paranoia and effort to control people either through grant making or abject denial. >> laura: jason, there was another moment in this pbs documentary about fauci. mayor becauser and fauci himself, they kind of ignored where the

and doctor francis collins from the national incision of allergy and infectious diseases and chief medical advisor to the president equal health the light recipient of nih funding grants to perform coronavirus the department of energy, the department of state, and the fbi concerning their intelligence on investigations around the evolution of covid-19. in any forensic findings they may have discovered. and over the weekend we haven't released a memo highlighting new evidence that suggests dr. fauci prompted the drafting disprove the lap leak theory the skewed evidence to achieve that goal and the current chief scientist of the world health organization is it unaccredited co-author even though he appears to have contributed to the piece entitled a proximal origins. i think we have already established the select subcommittee will try to leave no stone unturned to try to find the truth. unfortunately the question of the origins has been politicized. it's no secret is driven most people to their quarters rather than driving a political scientific debate or discussion. according to recent paper

doctor francis collins stated he was more concerned with harm to international harmony then he was with investigating the lab leak. dr. fauci said the lab leak theory was a shiny object that will go away in time. the president up eco- health orchestrated a letter that called the lab leak a conspiracy theory a statement that directly benefited himself. for a scientist conference call with dr. fauci completely reversed their position. doctor christian anderson said he found the genome inconsistent theory. doctor robert gary said he cannot think of a possible natural scenario. but a few days later published a paper saying the exact opposite. a paper based on the new e-mail we released claim to be prompted by dr. fauci himself. and fifth, the intelligence but fbi director christopher wray confirmed publicly the fbi assesses covid-19 most likely originate from lab incident and wuhan. wall street journal reported department of energy now also believes a lab leak is the most likely origin. these are not run-of-the-mill agencies for the fbi used experts in biological threats and was reportedly

they were talking about -- ferrar was writing to francis collins, very real possibility of accidental lab passaging in animals to give gleickens. he said that if anything, it's 50-50. again, this is february 4th. there's nothing to do with trade scents in that redaction. another -- secrets in that redaction. another example. this is february 2nd. this is -- understanding they funded this dangerous research, and now they're into cover-up mode. here's what we got in our production. the heavy reactions. this is what was released under foia. now, this was released under the b5 exception which is privileged information within or between agencies. again, this is with jamie ferrar of the welcome trust. so we had redactions, you know, privileged information. it didn't apply, and we still had it recontacted. i don't have time to get into that -- redacted. this is completely inappropriate. and by the way, you have produced 350 pages to us in the reading room. for over a year, we've been asking for the last 50 pages. this is what the 50 pages look like, okay? [no audio] now, again, i would argue

. >> if you look at the e-mail, you have fauci, and you have francis collins are going back and fortht this lab leak, why aren't we knocking this dow and evenson more severely knocking it down. doesn't everybody at this point in time want to know the truth? there's really no fundamental explanation about why this woul be deflected. there is perhaps the funding that meant to lab from american sources for the really only explanation as our economic relationship with china. this is still devastating to th relations with that country. >> politically, would you think that it is necessitating some type of 9/11 commission to look into this. not just the lab leak, ego from mask to everything about covid that was wrong, is there some kind of postmortem that should be done on this? >> i think it is fair question per 20 million people died. i've had covid three-time personally. at lost family members in the trillions of dollars in economi damage. i think it is a fair question. and definitely wise use of federal resources. >> i think people want to move ahead to the this is the straw poll, the 20

. >> so why weren't fauci hiss an boss, francis collins and their useful idiot deborah burks at all interested in discussing i what renowned experts were saying about when and how covid spread? exp what explains their stunninglait lack of curiosity in september of thousand nineteen three things happened in that lab. e u >>en one is they deleted the sequences, was highly irregula r. mmand-and-contro >> second thing they did was thv they changed the command and control the lal to b from the civilian control to the military control. highly unusualhighly unusual. i and the third things they did, which i think is really telling, is they let a contract to redo the ventilation system in that laboratory. >>. there must be accountability here. transpa there must be full transparency on the money we funneled to wuhan. >> all courtesy ofl courtesy of. >> the u.s. taxpayers. >> if our own public health resecials had a direct or indirect involvement in the research that led to this pandemic, merrick garland, our attorney general, the entire doj should be ready >> rmpanel a grand jury. there should be indic

of these revelations, laura , becaused an for thirty eight years he lauded, along later with francis collinsp the billions of dollars ofof res research grants to researchers and labs. y >> and i think he hadall of thee researchers kept quiet a monopoly on the narrative. and all of these researchers kept quiet whe when he flipped on the travel ban, flipped on mouse, flipped on natural o immunity, flipped on the vaccinations, flipped even on . >> nows of origins of covid. monopoly is they didn't say anything. and that that monopoly'sh in ovr within his retirement.to and now i thin fk peopleee are going to feel liberated. >> they're going to come out and tell the truth. and , you know, he was also not voracious about his own role. and that's what the big elephant in the room, if he tried to avoid statutes against gain of function research by channeling a grant througho h echo health to the wolumla. and if that was resulted in an engineered virus, it escaped,coq then i don't have to teluel yous what the consequences would of a be to his reputation. o and i think that's the subtext of all oparano

emails between anthony fauci and the francis collins reveal how they intended to use their awesome government authority and power to accomplish, quote, devastating published takedown, unquote, of scientists who offer a different approach to handling the pandemic. emails often reveal fauci's attempt to hide the agency's role and funding dangerous research that might have led to the creation of the deadly coronavirus. we don't know because those agencies won't provide the unredacted documents. federal health agencies have not been honest or transparent. i've written over 50 oversight letters. the vast majority of the questions i have asked have either received an adequate response or no response at all. i have requested information that the public has a right, has a rights to, no. doctors who had the courage and compassion to treat covid patients using their off label prescription rights have been vilified, censored, and their careers destroyed. other health professionals who have noticed told the line and remained silent. parents who are concerned for their children questioned school boards ad

cdc on the street you can see a email from october 2020, th is from then and i each director francis collins to doctor anthony fauci it goes on in to say this proposal talking about the great separation is from three french radiologists who met with the secretary it seems to be gettg a lot of attention. a signature host signature nol prize winner. t lining here i'd like to point out, tre needs to be i a quick and devastating publisd takedown. i don't see anything like that online yet. is it underway? what i find interesting is if you fast-forward into june of 2021, the buyer and administration was raging social media companies. there is communication that we can produce for the record that states we would like you to come back, combat quote unquote misinformation.we know twitter executives were using the term visibility filtering and that really or the rest of the american general public was shadow banning . so all of a sudden we saw a rash of blacklists created by twitter at the highest levels that were taken down some of the signatories and creators of this very declaration, correct? >> wo

this document, dated february 4 between anthony fauci, jamie farr of the welcome company and francis collins. you see the reactions here. this is the same document produced under foia so now we know what was redacted and this was redirected under d4 which is trade secrets. one of the things redacted as is anthony fauci saying serial passage in two transgenic mice? and otherwise in other words human eyes rice mice. there's accidental lab passage in animals to give blankets he said anything for our psyches thinking it's 50-50. this is february 4. there's nothing due to tradesecrets and that redaction . another example, this is your second. this is when their understanding that they funded this dangerous i research now they're in cover-up mode. here's what we got in our production. but heavy reactions. this is what was released under foia. this was released under the b5 exception which is privileged information within or between agencies. this is with jamie ferrara of the wellcome trust. so we have read actions with privileged information it didn't apply and we stillhave redacted . i don't have

francis collins wrote a blog post about it in march 2020. it had a large impact.e time, people didn't know that it first started being formulated in discussions between scientists and top government officials. host: if you want to join the conversation, (202) 748-8001 for republicans to call in. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independent, (202) 748-8002. jimmy tobias is our guest. the headline of his piece from the nation, unredacted nih emails show effort to rule out the lab origin of covid. that is what we are talking about. jonathan from old bridge, new jersey is up first. he is an independent. caller: i just feel like, you know, this person is using a lot of loaded language, saying it is unnamed experts of an unnamed expertise, not saying how many. wouldn't there be a good reason why they would say it is not a lab leak? we have plenty of people, elected representatives in the country who are saying things like jewish people control the weather with space lasers. i don't think that should be used as an example of an expert or anything, right? guest: there were five

francis colin screwed him over. let me guess do you believe there was a concerted effort? >> i do believe that there was concerted effort by dr. fauci and dr. collinsmake sure. co that no one really focused on the lab leak. eventually wthe will all come to learn that this pandemic was a direct consequence of scientific experiments. >> s anyway, pandemic features , slew o tf coincidences.c likefe how coincidental that a covid virus explode in a town that has covid viruses two that a guy behind game of function research steer you away as a cause of the pandemic and labdi leak theory or is there a bigger point at stake let's hear from my painfully pail friend tom --f tell uros tom do you care if i s a lab leak? >> i don't care if it is a labce leak i don't care. you know what i care about care about freedom. i want them to craft legislation about medical freedom. no more forced injections no more healthy people being qarn quarantined ever again no morete force testing no more revealing who has a vaccine or virus whos doesn't.ccin we need medical freedom in thiso country that's what we have tohi concentrate on.tr medical freedom.y.o to you come is scre