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francis collins, welcome back to the newshour. dr. collins: it's great to be here.tiful space. geoff: thank you. you said your goal in writing this book was to turn the focus away from hyper partisan politics and back to what you see as the most important sources of wisdom -- truth, science, faith, and trust. how did you settle on those four as the most important sources of wisdom? dr. collins: well, geoff, i spent a lot of time in the public eye, as nih director, and before that, the leader of the human genome project. and i have this vision of how science and truth can bring us into a place of less suffering and more flourishing. but i couldn't help but notice in the last few years that we seem to have kind of lost our way in some of these aspects. we don't seem to agree about what objective truth is all about or even whether there is such a thing. distrust of science has grown, even as science has been delivering some amazing things in the course of the last few years. faith, which ought to be a foundation we could anchor ourselves on at difficult times, seems to

francis collins, the book is the road to wisdom, on truth, science, faith and trust. ch for being here. we appreciate it. dr. collins: wonderful to be with you. geoff: and join us again here tomorrow night for the latest on the federal reserve's first expected interest rate cut in four years. and that's the news hour for tonight. i'm geoff bennett. amna: and i'm amna nawaz. on behalf of the entire newshour team, thank you for joining us. >> major funding for the pbs news hour has been provided by -- >> consumer cellular. this is sam. how may i help you? this is a pocket dial. well, somebody's pocket, thought i'd let you know that with consumer cellular, you get nationwide coverage with no contract. that's kind of our thing. have a nice day. ♪ ♪ >> moving our economy for 160 years, bnsf, the engine that connects us. carnegie corporation of new york, working to reduce political polarization through philanthropic support for education, democracy, and peace. more information at carnegie.org, and with the ongoing support of these institutions. this program was made possible

francis collins joins us now. and biden, including during the pandemic. it's great to have you with us. you saw a little bit of all of these during your time. true, science, faith, trust, and the erosion of so many of those things. particularly during covid and around the vaccines. so what story did you want to tell with the book? >> i think we are living in a dark time with our society haven't gotten so tied up in divisiveness and polarization and conspiracies that have fed into that. as a society, we ought to try to pull ourselves out of that. if there's a row that's going to take us toward wisdom, we are kind of in the ditch. we can figure out how put ourselves back together again. but it means getting re- anchored. there is such a thing as objective truth. there are facts out there, and they don't care how you feel about them. they are just facts. if we can re-anchor ourselves to be accepting of that, it would be a good start. many of the conspiracies were demonstrably false but spread anyway because they may

francis collins, thank you very much. dr. p tomorrow on "morning joe," former secretary of state hillary clinton will be our guest discussing her new book and her advice for vice president harris on how to run against donald trump. we'll be right back with much more on "morning joe." and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley >>> this just in. we're learning more than 100 former national security adviser who served under ronald reagan, george h.w bush and george w. bush, have all come together and endorsed vice president kamala harris after they said that former president donald trump is, quote, unfit to serve again as president, which is obviously what his own former chief of staff and others said. some of the names include former cia director michael hayden, former director of national intelligence, former defense secretary chuck hagle, former congresswoman barbara comstock and kim eggleman and many others on this list. you start adding these gop officials, national security officials with all those that serv

collins. >> patricia malaya culloden or. linda m colsn. >> and my friend susan and also, my brother michael francis lynch. i look forward to that they were we can all be together again. i ask everybody out there watching this to pray for unity and peace. thank you. >> my brother, robert t bobby hughes junior and our family friend judy hazel fernandez >> bobby, you're beautiful and inspections smile is missed and loved every day. you have no idea of a major impact your life has left on all of our hearts. i can't believe you are gone 23 years. the sadness and emptiness we all feel missing you is indescribable. thank you for watching over all of us after these years. you are loved and missed so much and you are forever our hero and angel. we love you so much, bobby. >> ronald edward coleman. albert conti. denise conley. susan conlon. margaret connor.john e connolly >>james lee connor. jonathan m connors. kevin patrick connors. >>kevin f conroy. >>brenda e conway. dennis michael cook . helen d cook . jeffrey w coombs . >> john a cooper. >> ruben correa. danny correa gutierrez. >> georgine rose corrigan. james