meanwhile, francis collins, nih director, is singing off key in front of the lincoln memorial today that another person who should be in jail. can they please my free advice? please stop singing or find someone who is better at it. i was watching an old video of francis collins singing a puff the magic dragon parody from the beginning of the pandemic, and i was like, wow, that was a weird time. we all really lost our minds because people overreached in their power and kept us all in our homes. and now he's doing it again. it's five years later. let's let's put it aside. but these are easy arguments for the president to make to the american people when it comes to giving money to very rich columbia university when it comes to his massive wins on immigration issues and on keeping the border secure. these are easy arguments to make. and when you put francis collins on the other side, singing once again in 2025, feeling like a time warp to 2020, people don't like it. it's not going to work as a sell. >> so they were happiest guys when americans were locked down, forced to not go to church, o

this is what happens, if i may borrow a phrase, when francis collins lies about the origins of covid and it's shown in e-mails that people can foia and see when he smears now-nih head jay bhattacharya for having normal, rational risk ideas about what we should do, when they force children to get a covid vaccine and put it in the vaccine schedule even though it is not in the risk benefit analysis for children because they are not hurt by covid largely with few exceptions. you get a deficit of public trust on public health because politicians, largely on the left, politicize public health. we all told you this was going to happen, particularly with vaccines, and it would be dangerous, and here we are. howard: leslie, identify got -- i've got half a minute for a response. >> i'm sorry, but it's rfk jr., it's republicans that were demonizing vaccines, not democrats. and that demonization of vaccines led to so many people choosing not to vaccinate themselves and is their children, and that's what why we're seeing what we're seeing, and that's why we're seeing people bess bodies being lowe

. >> trace: the last one is francis collins. pretty good. but what do you think of that?nds for you. >> i don't think they will be able to sing their way out of the problem they find themselves in but keep on with these videos, he putting these dance videos out there where they are choosing their fighter. they are not going to win. the more we cringe, the more the republicans get ahead and trump is definitely in the winning sea right now and democrats have lost their way. >> trace: tiffany marie brannon, beverly hallberg, good analysis, thank you both. >>> the trump administration cutting more than $400 million in federal funding from columbia university over the university's failure to protect students from anti-semitism on campus. chanley painter is live in new york city with the breakdown. >> reporter: the $400 million it cut are just the beginning according to an announcement by the multiagency task force reviewing columbia university's grant funds. all due to "the schools continued in action in the face of persistent harassment of jewish students." columbia currently

then nih director francis collins called bhattacharya a fringe epidemiology cyst.hattacharya testified that he wants to shift nih's focus to chronic diseases bike obesity, cancer and alzheimer's. cuts and freezes to research grants. >> president trump and elon musk are putting a lot of life-saving research at risk. do you support the recent researcher firings and grant freezes that have been implemented? >> senator, i was not involved in those decisions. >> he added that he will fully commit to insuring scientists have the resources they need. bhattacharya has said it's likely covid began with an accidental lab leak. he opposes gain of function research scientists alter viruses to study them. they say it helps them better understand viruses. bhattacharya calls it dangerous. >> i don't think we should be doing any research that has the potential to cause a pandemic. i want to work with congress to make sure that happens. >> bhattacharya told senators he is convinced the measles vaccine does not cause autism. no links between autism. he prom missioned to do more on t

scientific method and some very important scientist would share that respect as well, including francis collins, who is the director of the nih for many years, deeply religious person, and matthew schrag, who was this central character, if you will, in my book, deeply religious, christian who believes that his religious beliefs and values are part of what makes him effective in a as a person who believes in integrity. so that wasn't a problem for me but what aaron's referring and you can read about it in the book if you decide pick one up is that it was one of the strangest reporting of my career because she was really greeting me more as religious person than a scientist as someone who was a had invited me in because as said, she had forgiven me and that this was part of her religious practice and that blamed me for the diminished mean of her career associated with the fact that she had been implicated in fraudulent research, even though she didn't personally. dr. images she was overseeing the work and it was her responsibility as the principal investigator. so she had taken credit for one awa

science field and the philanthropy that funded it early on, and then, you know, meeting doctor francis collins, at one point he told me that he kept a picture of emily on his desk by his children to remind him why he came to work every day. but it really can change the world when everybody works together and and puts the funding in an important place like that. and it did prove to that research in children can lead to treatments in adults as well, because it also works in b cell lymphoma for adults. and it's and it's led to 50,000 patients in over 70 countries finding hope in a trial when standard treatment doesn't work. >> so it's good to have a miracle here in the studio with us. a miracle. and her dad. thanks so much, emily and tom. it's really it's an honor to have you here. thank you for sharing your story. thank you. another launch for space x ends in an explosion with debris falling out of the sky. and now a new investigation into why two launches in a row have been spectacular. failures. >> learn how to experiment with new technologies without getting played by them. listen to terms of

and how did director francis collins overstepped that role during his time?policy should be. our role is not to make decisions to say you shouldn't be saying goodbye to your grandfather as he is dying in the hospital. it shouldn't be to say that you cannot have a funeral because it's too dangerous. the scientists should say here what the risks are, then you decide whether you take those risks. the role of scientists shouldn't be that you can't send your kids to school for two years could you should close hospitals of the can't treat heart attack patients. that you should, the role of scientists should be to address those problems by giving good data and then let people. science should be the engine for freedom, knowledge and freedom. not something where it stands on top of society and says you must do this, this and this, or else. it shouldn't be pushing minutes for vaccines that have been, like the covid vaccines that were tested for a relatively short period of time. i took the covid vaccine myself. i think that the mandates pushed by many scientists have l

what is nih's proper role in a pandemic, and how did director francis collins overstep that role during his time? dr. bhattacharya: the proper role of scientist in a pandemic is to answer basic questions that policymakers have about what the right policy should be. our goal is not to make decisions to say you should not be saying goodbye to your grandfather as he is dying in a hospital. it should not be to say you cannot have a funeral because it is too dangerous. scientists should say, here is what the risks are, and you decide if you take it. the role of scientists should not be to say you cannot send your kids to school for two years, that you should close hospitals so they cannot treat heart attack patients. the role of scientists should be to address those problems by giving good data and then let people make -- science should be an engine of knowledge and freedom, not something where it stands on top of society and says you must do this, this, this, or else. it should not be pushing mandates for vaccines like the covid vaccine that were tested for a relatively short period of time

francis collins is an american -- [cheers and applause] , cited to discover the genes associate with achievements of signs over decades. advocating for public support at a time when serious threats of harm happen. thirty-two years -- and i ate, yes. [cheering] the human genome in both parties as director all patriots, i love my country and i'm worried about my country right now. just behind me you will see the wall, 270 unforgettable words at the gettysburg address, there might be a parallel there. this nation under god shall have new freedom and government of the people, by the people for the people shall perish from the earth. [cheering] [cheering] our own instruction book in human biology and medicine and the project only succeeded the strong support of members of congress. [cheering] a one back, every dollar the government invested led to $141 in economic return, not a bad roi. we should emphasizing people swayed. we are also saving money. [cheering] the brain initiative. [cheering] and the initiative in america to figure out all of those and we don't understand well enough groun

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. >> is that the nih director, as it's been under francis. collinsinician, somebody. >> that's respected. >> in the clinical community. he is not. >> he is not a clinician. and as a result. >> is he going to be a stopgap when it comes to. policies that many. >> of his peers in the clinical. >> community disagree with? >> and the answer to that is. it's not clear. he didn't. >> really answer any questions that. >> were hard. >> in his confirmation hearing yesterday. and by the way, this is happening, jonathan, at a time that we're losing. >> budget from. >> the nih, key scientific studies on climate change, on environmental justice, on cancer chemotherapy, frankly, just given these cuts. >> are at risk. >> and he. >> didn't really have anything. >> to say about that. >> so, doctor gupta, let's talk about another area of proposed cuts, which is medicaid. the republicans coming out saying they want to cut $2 trillion in spending over the last decade. as we've said many times on this show, you can't get anywhere close to that number without getting into

collins. next on cnn. >> an update now from the vatican. 88 year old pope francis is on a breathing machine after his respiratorydition worsened.

collins. next on cnn. >> an update now from the vatican. 88 year old pope francis is on a breathing machine after his respiratory condition worsened. >> straight from the source. tonight, the most astonishing moment i've ever witnessed inside the oval office, with ramifications far beyond washington. i'll take you inside the two on one shouting match between president trump, vice president vance and ukrainian president zelenskyy. as tonight, there are demands for an apology and even the suggestion of a resignation coming from trump's top ally, secretary of state marco rubio will join me for an exclusive interview. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source. a critical meeting that was expected to end with a signing ceremony and a potential path towards a peace deal devolved into a furious shouting match that instead ended with the ukrainian president being abruptly told to leave the white house. climbing into his armored vehicle as his lunch was growing cold in the west wing hallway, the east room of the white house, where a press conference between the leaders of the united states and ukraine was supposed to h