francis gannon is from royce investment partners.ugh time to be a small cap manager, but isn't this normal for small caps to be higher beta? >> it definitely is. i think what you're seeing in the market today is a mixture of what the fed might do later in the week, but also fears about liquidity. and liquidity changing, and that's causing the market, i think, to shift and be shear short-term oriented. as an active manager in the small cap space, being able to look at the next three to five years is exciting. >> three to five years is what you would tell people on what toe to dip in here i don't know if you can give names, some stocks you would say these would be the best bets if you're looking for things to pick up right now. >> i think you have to think about small caps in the, you know, if you're down 20% and you're in a bear market, there are going to be stocks down not just 20%, but 30, 40, 50%. there lies long term opportunity for investors. a few we think will benefit are be okay financial, one of the larger banks in oklahoma,