frangela, don't you think -- >> what did we just see? who was that? frangela, are community -- are community colleges on the west coast, are they considered actual colleges? because where i come from they aren't. >> what they really are is they are way stations between getting out of high school and your first d.u.i. that is really the place that you. >> absolutely. >> you meet your first drinking buddies and make a lot of sexual mistakes. >> absolutely. >> that is real li what they are about. >> how dare you compare a ged to a dui. >> bill, you have both, don't you? >> i have several of one, greg, i won't say which. >> greg: here is my question. it was a weird situation, him talking about this when was talk together auto workers. are we essentially giving up on making cars. >> i think john mccain got in trouble for saying the jobs aren't coming back and obama said it and everybody goes i guess they are not coming back. and he gave $9 billion for grant writing so if you can write a grant you can get a lot of money. >> greg: not a lot of students but i