frank and grace?so far, as far as you know, there are no signs of graffiti, no vandalism, it has been actually very peaceful so far. right? >> it has been very peaceful. some people have been writing on the street with chalk which is obviously a low key way to do things. and we have not seen any troubles here yet. and we're hoping it is going to tay that way. >> and the game plan for oakland pd, just it seems like they lost their surprise tactic by coming in, it seems like all of the protesters have now congregated, and with numbers, come strength and are they just going to sit it out, i guess, and must are have a game plan. >> and it definitely seems different from the last time they came in, and did kind of a sneak attack surprise ride, that was a couple of weeks ago, they have been warning that they were going to come and are raid and when they started moving in, they made no bones about the fact that they were gathering at the oakland coliseum and a lot of people were informing others an informing

up here in frank ogawa plaza.tents set up for immediate public information tent they are tearing down now. here some of the tents people are ash -- sleeping in. they expect to have health hazards inside these tents as they are dressed up in gear that can protect them from biohazards. they are going through with their flashlights with the intent to quickly break down the structure and hope that city sanitation workers can come in and cleanup whatever is left. it seems that they are not actually picking up everything they are coming by. just taking the tents$ down so they are no longer useq -- use able for sleeping or living in. media has come in behind the line of police as the police officers have started quickly making their way through the plaza with one of primary intents to make sure there are no more people inside the tents. >> you have shown us some of the arrests. the protesters? we are hearing various reports on twitter, a

>> yes, good morning, frank. it doesn't seem to be that there is a lot of resistance right now, but the perimeter has shrunk, the police have moved in, and the way the plaza is set up, some tents are actually inside the camp, the parking area, and there are some actually on the lower end on the plaza, and those tents have been torn down. police walked through with their flashlights, and shaking the tents, asking people to leave, and these tents happen to be empty, and now they've moved in to the actual steps of the plaza and it looks like they are getting ready to go in and we see police with their batons and some police with guns drawn and it seems to be the guns that have the rubber bullets that everyone has been talking about. and i spoke with the pio, and i asked her what the holdup is and they want everybody to hear the message and they want them to give them time so they can get their belongings and leave. i actually have seen some people leave. so it looks like there hasn't been any sort of resistance, tha

the jackie sissel is inside frank ogawa plaza. jackie, as we show this you streaming video, all we have seen the tents come down. is that what you are seeing? >>jackie: that is exactly what is going on. about two dozen police officers moved in from the south side of frank ogawa plaza, it happened very systematically. the camera on the left is going to go to the camera that is on 14th in clay. you can see police officers ripping down the tents, one by one. this is just now happening as we speak. i just shot this video about two minutes ago. there were probably two dozen police officers in riot gear that moved into the plaza. they started tearing down tents as they went along. officers wanted to make sure that no one was inside the tents. that is that they did. many of the tents have been removed already. you can see now that they're going through there. we waited for about two hours thinking that it was gone to happen and finally they moved in. >>jackie: for the most part it appeared that protesters made their way out of the plaza

right in the center of the map is frank ogawa plaza. also, the perimeter cerise which are franklin and clay st., this is broadway running down middle. the area between franklin and clay, between 11 and 17 who feel definitely the area to avoid. for my money would be better off avoiding anything between webster and jefferson. >>george: the bart station is still closed. there is no indication from are about when they will reopen its wall street station. it was closed this morning at the request of the oakland police department. a quick check on bridges shows the bay bridge, it is about an 18 minute drive time. at the golden gate bridge, 101, it is a problem free on the stand. the commute is getting heavier through marin county. the time is now 7:34 a.m., let's get a check on whether. >>erica: temperatures right now are on a mild side. forties and fifties around the bay area. 54 for those of you and have fun bay. as we take temperatures into the accident, widespread '50s and '60s. maybe 63 for redwood city. right now we have a sense of sout

but frank's just a little bit more, a little extra for frank. >>> all righty. let's take a peek at something, you know, just very, very tragic. at a football game tonight, oklahoma state and iowa state and prior to the game, the moment of silence, two basketball coaches, head coach and his assistant from the oklahoma state women's program, died in a plane crash.

it almost changed the leo frank story. they had determined that he was guilty and needed to be punished. and officials of the town, including a former governor and a future governor, they just declared that he was guilty and their job was to -- there was always a mystery on how the mob got in there so easily. it turned out that these people had a lot of influence with the jail, cutting the budget and that sort of thing. they were simply let into the jail to do this. i thought about it and, yes, it does not change the story, but it does. because the vengeance was official. and it was sanctioned by legal personalities, including a judge. it shows you how anger was. they thought he was guilty and he got what he deserved. the museum in atlanta put on an exhibition that took them five years to correct. they had a lot of original documents, among them a document from william smith, who was jim kotalik's lawyer. on his deathbed he wrote a note saying, on my death, i believe that leo frank was innocent and of good character. they

i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm grace lee. it is 4:30 this morning. >> oakland police could make their move at any time now. >> they are expected to close the occupy camp and we have live chopper aerials that we are showing you. you can see how crowded it has gotten. police cars are standing by. you can see people have been milling around, most of the night, hundreds of protesters have gathered at the plaza. not a lost people getting sleep tonight. >> kristy siefkin is standing by at snow park. but we begin with anne makovec at the plaza where protesters have ignored repeated warnings to get out. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. there about 500 people as best as i can count on frank aga with wa plaza, blocking the intersection. a lot of folks wearing masks and some wearing goggles and some carrying shields and others waiting around and waiting to see what will happen. they have been crowded for several hours at 1th and broadway waiting for police after police were rumored to be showing up in the early morning hours. th

you up for it. >> stephen: i'm up for it, frank. folks in the coming weeks we will be working with frank luntz to create the perfect ad to change the hearts and minds of those 99 percenters. but it won't be easy. because that's like half the country. (laughter) >> stephen: we'll be right back. (cheers and applause) >> welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is a republican presidential candidate and former ambassador to china. i'll ask him if the artificially depressed currency affects our trade deficit-- deficit in bed. please welcome jon huntsman. (cheers and applause) thank you. hey, governor, thank you so much for coming on. sir, what a pleasure. i love having the candidates on to hash out the issues. >> the honor is mine, thank you for having me. >> stephen: i know. now i should just warn you i have a superpac so legally we cannot coordinate our, your campaign with my superpac's money so don't say anything that you mean. you were obama's ambassador to china legally i have to do that. how can i trust you. you work for o bomba.

frank does not hold the high ground. it is much more humane to look out for all the folks, to demand fiscal responsibility so all americans can prosper. the left believes the usa should be in business to help the down-trodden at the expense of everyone else. that's why liberalism is not helpful. it's to create widespread prosperity so they can hitch a ride on it and work their way up. giving people stuff is a recipe for failure. we've seen it over and over. but if you tell barney frank that, you're a bad person. america does not owe anyone a living. barney never got that. but we wish him well anyway. that's a memo. the top story, monica crew low and alan colmes. how does this republican -- >> even if herman cain doesn't step down or even the new hampshire primary and doesn't score big and even if he leaves at that point, i think what's going to happen is you're going to see a direct funneling of people who had supported herman cain go to one of three people, either newt gingrich, whose conservative support might go to ne

to repeal but frank you'd see the housing market start to improve overnight dodd frank kill small banks and kill small business the federal regulators are anti housing loan and it has naturalized the frame of a. so there really that simple you guys if you just allow the economy to reboot then that's where closures will go away or according to you gingrich if you just repealed thought frank the housing crisis will easily be fixed i mean these are the most childish ridiculous answers that i've ever heard and these are candidates the want to be the president of the united states so that's the excruciating part of last night's fiasco is that none of them offer any concrete solutions they just spew off more parrot talking points i had if you were watching the mainstream media's coverage of the debate today you forget all about that who wants to get into those details or playing fifty three seconds of awkwardness is just so much more fun because rick perry making himself look like an idiot totally race and the fact that this entire country is in trouble if any of the people on that stage win

that is frank ogawa plaza. you can see now there are hundreds of protesters who have gathered there. the camp site was cleared of all of its tents this morning but the police chief said people are welcome to come there, they are just not allowed to camp overnight. even though the camp site is clear of the tents, thing is here, no one is sure what is going to happen next. and ktvu's ronert h spoke -- robert handa spoke to businesses. what are they telling you? >> reporter: right now they have a calm but apprehensive attitude. as you look downtown. you can see that they are nervous because they know the marchers are so close by. you can see the occupy marchers are making their way downtown back to frank ogawa plaza. from the library. this march is making owners wonder because they are not sure if or when things will get back to normal. >> reporter: he is ready to keep his shop open full time. the protests scared away a lot of customers. >> 60%. we don't make no money here. >> reporter: other businesses and their

but behind this is the frank frank oga plaza. earl yell -- frank ogawa plaza. earlier, we saw the police taking down those tents. before that, i watched about 23 people being led away from the frank ogawa plaza. they had been arrested and they were not resisting arrest. they were escorted away by police peacefully. not sure why any were arrested -- why they were arrested. overall, things have been peaceful. we were here october 25th, the first time the police opened up the encampment and we did see tear gas in that. we haven't seen any of that here. we haven't seen anybody throwing anything. so overall, things have been tense, there's been some strong bords from the -- words from the protesters. but no reaction from either side. live in downtown oakland, allie rasmus, ktvu channel 2 news. >> reporter: okay. good morning, from frank ogawa plaza. a lot is going on here in the last couple of minutes. you're looking at a live picture of chief howard jordan. he's just arrived at what was the encampment at frank ogawa plaza. in addition to the new police chief. >> ma

congressman frank, as chairman frank, he saw firsthand the ins and outs of a political system where, frankly, money rules. and he was able to rescue some important reforms, notably as you talked about earlier, consumer protection. but the -- the movement right now by those who are in charge is to try to nullify the gains that were made. so i think when he speaks about that, he -- there's no one who knows better about what kind of obstacles we face to be able to keep in place even modest financial reforms. >> ohio congressman dennis kucinich, always great to have you on the program, congressman. thanks so much for your time tonight. >>> coming up, dick cheney's daughter liz cheney thinks president obama's re-election strategy involves high unemployment? i'll show her who's really rooting for a bad economy next. >>> two football legends go at it. we have the video. you won't believe it. i've got play-by-play. come on. this is not a saturday night stroll in the park, is it? >>> and in "psycho talk" tonight, liz cheney thinks she understands president obama's formula for success. accordi

harm or that herman cain but i mean seriously died and frank dodd frank the bill it's like the worst thing that's ever happened to america and it's really interesting you know you pull back the lens and you think what just happened three years ago the economist fell off a cliff the global economy almost fell off a cliff because banks were reckless and we had no idea what to do with the trillions of dollars of assets that were going that dodd frank is at least a step towards us reclaiming the kind of regulations that we had before they were unwound the one nine hundred ninety s. into thousands it's amazing to me that you have the me a major party in this country one of two major parties in this country and all they can talk about is getting back banking conditions to where they were in two thousand and five two thousand and six and two thousand and seven when we know they didn't work it's possible that dodd frank is not the ideal bank regulation it is at least a step towards a better banking regulation rule and law that will have the effect of not having two thousand seven happen all

some packed up and move out of frank ogawa plaza.30 a.m., other protesters, hundreds of then rallied at 40 and broadway playing music, chanting and showing support for their movement. around 4:00 a.m. the first officers arrived in downtown oakland. the next hour brought another wave, police in riot gear set up a perimeter using a bullhorn in forming protesters that they will clear out the camp. some people disregarded the warnings. >> i think i will stay here and be arrested. >>reporter: around 6 a.m. the police moved in the at that time most protesters left the area or raw processing peacefully away from the 100 tents that remain. people that refuse to leave were arrested. >> i am happy to report that there were no injuries to officers or citizens. there was no excessive use of force. and there was no resistance in the tents. >>justine: >>reporter: this was a far more peaceful raid than on october 25th. >> we came to this point because i think occupy oakland took a different path from the original move it. we have had repeated viole

people are already at the frank ogawa plaza.eople are riding bikes and going up and down the streets coming in and out of the plaza. as i said, so far we have not seen any of that the police presence. i was here on the 25th when they initially cleared out a plaza. that morning there was hundreds of police officers that set up a perimeter around frank ogawa plaza. now as i am talking i start to see ambulances moving down san paulo towards the plaza right now. it looks like at least two, maybe four of them are rolling down setting up on san paulo just about a 16th street or so. right now we have not seen a big police presence on the ground here. >>james: we have less than one minute before we have to take another break in what is the mood of the crowd? >>reporter: anxious. i think people know that something is about to happen. for the most part, the protesters are walking in and out of the plaza setting up on the perimeter you see a lot of people on bicycles asking us questions like what is going to happen, and when is it going to

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>>pam: one person has been shot in frank ogawa plaza. that is the location of the occupy encampment. if it has been there for about a month. a lot of contentiousness surrounding that in camden between business leaders and city officials as well as protesters themselves, many whom are not from the city of oakland. >>pam: we are trying to locate some city officials and get them on the line to give us some further explanation. as we do that, we will bring it to you immediately. >>jaqueline: our big story of the night is the weather. right now, conditions are in the upper 60s in the lower 60s depending on where you are. it is still 70 degrees down in san jose. temperatures are warmer than they were yesterday. by 7:00 a.m., coastal rain. the 9:00 a.m. hour will give you a little bit of a break. >>pam: on the phone with us now is council president, a city council president larry reed. thank you for joining us. we understand there are some developing situations. we would like to know where you can tell us in terms of someone being shot. defense

but this is what dodd/frank did.he government reg iewferlts that tell us, this year, greta, we are going to see financial services companies and banks have to put out 11 million man hours to be in compliance with the one fourth of rules written near dodd similar frank, three-fourths of the rules haven't even been written and that will cost 11 million man hours, contrast that with when the empire state building was built, that required 7 million man hours over 13 months. so this is complete unproductive time. it's a waste of time. and it makes the united states far less competitive than other countries. that will mean more jobs will flee the united states. so we have to look at the issue of competitiveness, how the united states can be the most competitive -- >> you can -- >> that's what i intend to do. >> you mentioned that there are not rules written for dodd/frank. i will tell what you i find troubling and i know it's done all the time. congress passes a law like dodd/frank and we vote it -- and you voight it yes o

. >> barney frank is an idiot! >> barney frank. all he did was run a gay prostitution ring out of his house office. (audience reacts) >> i thought you guys loved job creators. (laughter) (cheers and applause) look, i don't know what republicans are going to do. barney frank leaves the house finance committee who do you think the will replace him thaty can beat up half as gleefully. >> he could be replaced by maxine waters. >> jon: that could work for you. maxine waters for helping bank her husband owns stock in. this maxine waters? >> as far as i'm concerned the tea party g k go straight to hell. (laughter) >> jon: all right, the keening is dead, long live the queen. (cheers and applause). >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight, oh, we love her, an actress, her new book is called "betty and friends, my life at the zoo." her t.v. land show "hot in cleveland" returns tomorrow night. how. >> how did you guys find he? >> we were searching the guest house for clues when i noticed you had written on a pad next to the pho

now frank is in michigan to find out why. obama has to go. and they also agree that they want to win control of the senate to go along with their control of the house. but there is one issue, one controversial issue that divides them and that's the issue of immigration. tell me, tell the american people, how many of you would deport every illegal immigrant that you could find? raise your hands. how can you afford that? how can you afford it? we already have a budget deficit. >> i understand that, but they are taking money out of our pockets. you say they are not -- they are not here through any fault of their own, but you know it's not my fault either. and i am paying their bills. >> alabama has just pass add law that all of a sudden immigrants are leaving on their own accord. >> and they are here illegally, they are breaking the law. administrative law or not, it's still breaking the law. >> it's a disservice to people that come to this country legally that go through the system, that work hard to be here and do it the right

back to frank ogawa plaza tonight. kron 4's reggie kumar has the latest. >> they have remained peaceful tonight. most of the protesters left. frank ogawa plaza is filled with more police officers than protesters. authorities say the protesters can stay as long as they don't put optent. >> reporter: protesters rogrouped and held a library at 4:00 p.m. many who spoke had been released from jail after they were arrested when police raided frank ogawa plaza for the second time in a month monday morning. >> the conditions that created it still exists. >> reporter: at 5:30 p.m. more than 500 demonstrators left the library and walkedphasifully along 14th street to oakland city hall followed by a heavy police presence promising to take back frank ogawa plaza. but not all protesters want to take frank ogawa plaza back. >> "occupy oakland" cannot be taken down. >> we are fighting the state. reclaiming the space. >> causes problems. we are going backwards. causing harm to oakland, to businesses, to the movement. they are not doin

>> reporter: we are across the street from frank ogawa plaza. about an hour ago almost no one was here, now hundreds. the city is permitting protesters but no camping. they removed them this morning in a raid that went smoothly. >>> the morning began with a march on the occupiers and their supporters. police came in huge numbers for backup and police watching from the air. [ singing ] >> reporter: some sang songs as police moved in to arrest them. >> reporter: police arrested 33 people. no violence or any injuries. the mayor who first resisted said the conditions badly deteriorated. >> it was no longer about the financial system, closures, unemployed, it good b came a police where we had violence and this week a murder. we had to bring the camp to an end before more were hurt. >> reporter: officials made another decision to keep the frank ogawa plaza open for peaceful protests around the clock but no sleeping or camping. >> we don't have any reason to keep people out of the plaza because it's a public domain. we are trying to reduce any type of

mara, what should we make of barney frank's retirement? 71 and he has been redistricted and he has a lot of new constituents and he said it was too much for him to campaign and win over new folks. is that the story or more to it? >> that's part of it. he had to lend himself a lot of money and he had a tough race last time. if barney fran thought he would be the chairman of the banking committee in 2012 he might run again. but a sign that democrats think while they might pick up some seats, 25 which is what they need for the majority is maybe a bridge too far. one of the things we're looking at now is how many retirements there will be. that is a sign of how the party views the pros text. i don't think it's a nod yet. but there is 17 democrats retiring. half of them running for higher office. this tells you that, you know, democrats can read writing on the wall and don't think they will be in the majority. >> chris: we'll talk about the bigger political picture but stay with barney frank. steve, frank's admirers, said he was brilliant. obvi

we begin with amy hollyfield near frank ogawa plaza. >> reporter: good morning. the protesters have received word that police are coming. they've done what they can to make it tough forever them to get in. look at the intersection at 14th and broadway. a huge crowd so big that you can't get through. this is where police showed up the last time they cleared out this camp, they parked here. now you can't get through. the crowd has been playing music all night. sometimes they stop the music and bust out into a chant about how they are not going to go. earlier yesterday, protest given their third notice to leave the plaza. the notice was a little different. it declared that every other major park in oakland is off limits to occupy camper. the protesters ignored the notices, they are still here. if or when police do come to clear out these activists it is going to be expensive. the sheriff's office told us this does not qualify for mutual aid any more. because they were let back after clearing them out before 0 they considered it a planned event. oakland -- oakland ha

meister to frank conaway as terroristic and -- in nature. >> supporters of frank conaway gave their opinion about a confrontation between conaway and logger b --logger adam meister. >> if you to file a man's throat -- home, if you threaten his family, if you invade his personal space, you put that man's back up against the wall. >> it was part of an escalating feud between meister and the conaway family. meister said he was running on liberty heights avenue when he went past the home of frank conaway. verbally about blogs meister has written, including his longstanding claim that conaway's daughter, linda conaway, did not live here. she sued meister for $21 million, and later dropped the lawsuit. it may have cost her a seat on the city council. >> we are yelling back and forth and he is getting closer and closer. he lunges at me. >> adam meister paid a visit to my property and started making threats against me and my family. i resented it and told him that i did. >> two police officer saw the confrontation and allegations arose about conaway allegedly brandishing a gun. >> i am not saying w

let frank go. frank, you tell us. >> cathy could answer it better than me. >> no, i can't. not a guy. >> if you really care about somebody, you care about somebody that way, it's very easy to be romantic. they see it in your eyes and smile and the way you breathe faster. exactly. >> and your nostrils flair. >> exactly. >> that's a great answer. you can tell. >> women like guys that are shy. a woman can figure out much quicker than you can. you really don't have to do anything. be yourself. >> don't play games. >> i'm advocating my chair. you can't make somebody be romantic. they either are or aren't. we don't know a lot of stuff. it's okay to say, hey, i like flowers and certain things. we need to be told. it's okay. >> how do you get your husband to pick up after himself? another question, frank. how do you get your husband to pick up after themselves? >> that's very difficult. it goes back to how they were raised. >> too late now. thank you, gentlemen. i mean it. >> coming up, we're going to throw a tailgate party. >> that's what we do. >> this is "today" on nbc. >>> just

i'm here at frank ogawa plaza. most of the protestors are returning from the telegraph area that you spoke of. some are coming back to their tents. many are already asleep. a few of the people i spoke with say they are concerned with the police presence that they may move in. now, we don't see any cops in the immediate encampment area. we saw cops from concord, san rafael, even fremont. now, as anne mentioned, there is a wall that a lot of the protestors are washing down trying to clean up some of the graffiti and as anne mentioned, they are concerned with this anarchist group that's been going around spray-painting the walls and what not. in fact, they have been sort of separating themselves out from a lot of protestors here. you can see the sign they are calling their own general assembly meeting, as well. as for the "occupy" protestors, they will have a general assembly meeting to plan what to do next. the next big plan of action comes november 5 when they are asking people to pull money out from the bank. anser

i'm frank mallicoat. >> and i'm grace lee. it is 5 a.m. >>> "occupy oakland" activists regroup and move on to a different park in oakland. >> that's right. kristy seifkin is in snow park in oakland and you would think that they would have taken both tents down but they have not. there are dozens that have popped up and they have popped up overnight. good morning. >> reporter: they took down the tents at frank ogawa plaza yesterday but still, many tents out here this morning at snow park. the notice that the city released on sunday said it's illegal for people to pitch tents or any kind of structure in any city park and snow park was one of the location listed in the notice. that said, the city hasn't moved in and raided snow park yet. yesterday after that raid happened there was a meeting held by protestors at the library this downtown oakland and there they discussed several options fo where they would set up again, including snow park or vacant buildings or frank ogawa plaza. if campers go to frank ogawa plaza, it would be i

it finally happened -- leo frank. what was it, the 1980's when it finally happened? there was a man who was a boy that worked up a pencil factory. he was 14 years old, i think. he saw jim connolly carrying mary fagan to the basement. and he went home and told his mother and his mother said, don't tell anybody. connally said, if you tell anybody, i will kill you. and he told his mother all of that. so he never said anything. but when he was dying in the 1980's, he was an old man. he said, i cannot die with this on my conscience. i saw this. it became more clear. but when of inc." opened in the "parade"'s, -- when opened in the late 1990's, tom watson brown said [unintelligible] i do not know what that means. [laughter] but it is still going on. she has a great niece or something that puts those little pink bows in her hair and talks about her great great aunt was a martyr. and she was. that little girl was 13 years old and she was murdered when she was working in a factory making 10 cents an hour. it was 10 cents a day