we're going to bring in frank albert, who is a former ambassador. he's a senior job and frank, thank you so much for coming on. the 1st thing i want to ask you to see exactly about diplomacy, thoughts, as every other type of foreign policy. generally, diplomacy walks because it's about compromise, it builds trust. do you think that trust is something that will ever exist between the kremlin and the white house? but i think that the trust and confidence is a basic element in diplomacy. and it worked well in the past. it worked, helping us to rain down the confrontation between east and west. after the cool and warm it helped us to regain german unification. that opened the avenue of abroad corporation with the rest of the eastern europe. well, on the issue of, of your i did want to ask you because i've been saying we've been talking a lot about and how you are sometimes you of course, in the middle, obviously north stream to jump in germany was a perfect example of how they were trying to balance all of these interests moving forward. how do you think