it's frank cochrane, president of investment timing consultants. he joins us from troy, michigan. nice to see you. back back to the program. >> thank you, tom, great to see you. >> tom: why so bearish? you describe yourself as extremely bearish? why? >> well, i'm looking at, say, the next three or four years. i think, first of all, where we are now, the combination of economic stagnation and government austerity is not really a pill for a better economy. we have shifting demographics with people-- baby boomers are getting older. housing to me doesn't look like it's fixed yet. the employment levels look like they're going to get worse, unemployment levels and we see what the fed is doing. they basically told us we're giving you a free pass on interest rates the next couple of years, that combined with what's going on in europe the last couple of days i think is a real testimony to the issues and problems going on, in a global economy. these are not things that happen when the economy is doing well. these are things that-- this continued facilitation of money and money being thrown