and frank conniff. >> hello. >> john: gentlemen, thank you. we should note that hunter renounced most of his comments in an interview yesterday. and in a blog post, late yesterday, but should we be surprised that rand paul's social media director once longed for the days with a friendly gathering meant lots of guys in white sheets? >> well, speaking of gathering of just white guys -- >> john: this is our first ever all four white guy panel. where it is exactly like fox except for the evil part. >> that's right. as much as i love coming up with jokes about racists foaming at the mouth, i do think jack hunter is not one -- for fairness, as you are is that this is a guy, he was a shock jock. not a very noble profession. he admits when he had that job back in the '90s, he said the horribly inflammatory things. he said he doesn't agree with that. >> john: he said it after the '90s, the last decade, up to 2007, he's on record. >> right. he said things -- well, you know, he said very troubling things and i'm not defending anything he said. it is all