we caught up with frank doyle, the dean of the harvard school of engineering and applied sciences toabout the ambitious goal of becoming a top five engineering school in the next five years. also, the general partner of a capitalaised general firm. you moved out here from santa barbara, where you had a long tenure at the university of california system to run the engineering school. what attracted you to this position? >> the legacy of harvard, the power of the institution, the creativity of the students. i was drawn to the innate talent, the raw creativity of the students, combined with the power of the harvard professional schools at large. the medical school, the business school, the law school. it is an interesting and historic moment in regards with engineering. we are tripling enrollment at the engineering school. moving to a new building. all at the same time the marvelous gifts are coming in. it is an unusual confluence. emily: some say that harvard engineering has a lag stanford, m.i.t., carnegie mellon. you have pledged to be a top-five school within five years, which is fa