frank figliuzzi, barbara mcquade, and den dilanian are all joining me right now. we haven't said this i think maybe since the beginning of the hour about the stakes here, the stakes for the criminal justice system, obviously, the stakes for the justice system, the stakes for the prosecutors here, th stakes obviously for donald trump. it is a momentous, historic time. what does jack smith need to do and say right now when he comes to that podium? perhaps in less than ten minutes. >> i think his goal is going to be to assure the american public that this case is based on evidence and not on politics. i think one of the things that donald trump has done so disastrously to our country is to frame everything in terms of politics. everything in terms of team red or team blue. that's what it's all about. and instead, i think what jack smith needs to rise above is that concept that everything's a political decision, that this is a case based on evidence, that not only are there charges of the espionage act but these charges relating to obstruction of justice, which, you k

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i want to get frank figliuzzi in here. the cat and mouse search for the boxes, frank, i feel like is the smoking gun and one of the most entertaining parts of this indictment. i'll read this quickly. so on may 15th, they get a subpoena saying turn everything in. corcoran goes to trump and says you have to turn everything in. he's like, couldn't we say they're not there, no, you have to turn it in. on june 1st, trump speaks with corcoran and asked whether trump attorney one was coming to mar-a-lago the next day for exactly what purpose. trump attorney one reminds trump trump attorney one was going to review the boxes transported from the white house and remained in storage at mar-a-lago, so trump attorney one could have a custodian of records certify the may 11th subpoena had been fully complied with. june 2nd, the day trump attorney one is scheduled to review those boxes in the storage room, trump speaks with nada, who is his valet, on the phone at 9:28 a.m. for approximately 24 seconds, later that day, between 12:33 p.m.

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joining me is frank figliuzzi, msnbc national security analyst. so great to talk with you, frank.s, on the one hand, there has been a lesson learned by trump supporters who are prone to violence in all of these indictments for seditious conspiracy of oath keepers and proud boys. and also regular schmucks who are now spending time in jail and their lives have been destroyed. on the other hand, we have seen the power of his rhetoric. how concerned should we be that if trump is indicted, particularly by the feds, that we might see maga violence? >> yeah, this is a good news/bad news situation. as you said, no question errr seeing that the thousand, literally, 1,000 arrests so far with regard to january 6th and leadership of oath keepers and proud boys convicted of seditious conspiracy, that has had a chilling effect. we see that in chat rooms. we see extremists, violent extremists saying i don't want to get arrested. this could be a setup, i'm not going. that's good news. the not so good news is that trump has already started to show us where he's going with this. he's already done s

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not let these loud, hateful voices be the ones dominating the public discourse discourse. >> frank figliuzziou've warned us about. quote, far right extremists have especially targeted events that include drag performers, people who boldly and visibly defy the rights of strict ideas of gender and gender identity. the proud boys whose chapter has grown considerably since the january 6th insurrection targeted lgbtq events through 2022 through harassment or protest. just talk about this strategy and this brutal targeting and the intersection with politically aligned and targeted threats of violence. >> first, let me give kudos to the sblc for an extremely comprehensive, well written, well-packaged report. i recommend everyone reading this that wants to become more familiar with what's happening all around us now, because the overall take away is that hate is becoming more entrenched. hate has gone local, and the more local it goes, the more mainstream it becomes. now one of the strategies we see is what you mention, which is an increased targeting of the gay community. it's part of the so-called

. >> let me go to frank figliuzzi, a former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi, and former number two at the fbi miami office. thanks for joining us. you know this turf well. what's the thought on the security plan here that's allowing some of these protesters to get up to the motorcade in some cases? >> yeah, this is uncomfortably close by secret service standards. they prefer a hardened perimeter. they prefer a distant perimeter, but there was push and pull and give and take with the city and county authorities, and this is what we got today. the good news, lester, is that these numbers so far appear only to be in the 100s, not the thousands. they're far more manageable numbers for the law enforcement community. to plan security for an event like this, including the transportation and movement, you're looking at at least ten agen agencies, local, county, state, and federal all trying to coordinate and get their piece and their preferences in here and what i like to tell people is just as laura mentioned, we're in the first step of the legal process. we're also in t

frank figliuzzi has been wanting to get in with a point, frank. >> a couple of things.at me from the national security perspective is we're learning now that these documents retained at mar-a-lago were from throughout the u.s. intelligence community, and specifically on page 8 those agencies are cited. and i have to tell you whenever information comes from some of these agencies, particularly the national security agency, the national reconnaissance office, the national geospatial agency, they are almost automatically top secret and then compartmented information. to hear that some of this was sitting on a stage in a ballroom at mar-a-lago is really cringing for me. u just to give you a sense of the sensitivity of these agencies in common conversation at fbi headquarters or if you're out at lunch, we typically use a code name for these agencies so that we know what we're talking about and where something came from but that people sitting next to us would not know what we're talking about. this is the kind of classified information that he kept openly at mar-a-lago. >> a

rachel maddow, alex wagner, joy reid, chris hayes, frank figliuzzi, eddie glaude, thank you. thanks to all of you. we're really glad you watched with us. msnbc's special prime time coverage will be back at 8:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime the beat with ari melber starts right now. i'm glad i let you go because i remember you have your own show to anchor. >> thank you. our thanks to nicolle wallace and the whole team there doing this cover nl. >>> we continue the breaking coverage of the first ever federal indictment of a former president. today the justice department unsealed an indictment of defendant donald trump of 37 counts. we're covering this historic and unprecedented development with our legal experts who have been pouring over this 44-page indictment since it was first unsealed this afternoon. the nation heard from special counsel jack smith for actually the first time ever today. a prosecutor known for his work and today his actions, indicting the former president after about seven months on the job. and he spoke clearly and concisely about this indictment and nat

. >> let's bring back frank figliuzzi, a former number two at the fbi's miami office. i'm curious in looking through the indictment where you saw the strengths and maybe weaknesses in the government's case? >> it's important as we talk about delay, complications, speedy trial, that we also factor in the potential complications involved whenever classified material is part of the prosecution's ragy, and the indictment clearly indicates that at least 31 documents are part of charges. in fact, each one of those 31 documents, constituting a cha of willful, unlawful retention of national defense information. so the national security community, the intelligence community has been scrambling with the damage assessment, but yet, has had to agree, sign off on the use of those 31 highly classified documents for this prosecution, in some way, shape, or form. so how will that delay things potentially? well, you're talking about defense attorneys getting cleared. you're talking about operating sometimes in a scif, which by the way, the miami federal building has a secure facility f

rachel maddow, alex wagner, joy reid, chris hayes, frank figliuzzi, eddie glaude, thank you.ecial prime time coverage will be back at 8:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime the beat with ar

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and top secret sort of in this category that frank figliuzzi has warned about in the past that you havebasically create clearances for everybody in the trial and it's too high. if it feels like princess and the pea, secret is just right. >> well, look, we don't know exactly what the document is. we hear the papers being waved. first, the guardian comment believes he doesn't believe everything he took was automatically classified. katie has given a good explanation, if we are talking about plans that are all in accurate or even not, for invading iran, think what that means for our allies who have to think if trump comes to office, what's he going to do with this information. think what it has to mean for our adversaries, even if it's a year old, it is not -- i understand the secret, you know, just right categorization. it's a dangerous document and you don't need to have a career in the military intelligence to know that. plans for how we might attack iran, dangerous, not to be disseminated. >> katie benner, as a student of all of the journalism around trump and people who have interview