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"the bear" is back and bringing more heat from the kitchen. if you could describe "the bear" in one word? >> pressure. >> hopeful. >> "the bear" is human. >> reporter: it's the smash hit about a restaurant in major need of a revamp after a family tragedy. a love letter to restaurant culture with all its intensity, stress, and passion. what is it about this collection of characters that people just gravitate toward? >> i think that feeling of loneliness met by the need for belonging then feeling like you're a part of something bigger than yourself. that's such a human and universal thing. >> reporter: "the bear" is one of the hottest shows of the moment, cooking up new drama in its highly anticipated third season. in this show, there is chaos. there is intensity. and the way it's shot. your heart is truly pounding. watching you all. do you feel that as you're filming it? >> it's shot in a very visceral way. it's a real marriage between the actors and the crew. there's real flames, real knifes in the kitchens. >> reporter: real knifes? >> small, small spaces. >> reporter: have your cooking skills improved? >> yeah. >> mine got worse. >> i got to go to culinary school. i started at absolute zero, so it's not difficult to get better when you're that terrible going in. >> reporter: jeremy allen white plays carney, a talented chef who's come back home to chicago to run a restaurant along with his sister and a slew of unique characters. >> why are you doing this? >> i can't waste that much time. >> reporter: is he going to be beyond driven now because of what he's been through in season two? >> i think it's carney's go-to. he's so avoidant. i think when he's going through an experience that's particularly traumatic, he's going to bury himself in the work. >> part of her wanting to work in the restaurant is be close to carmy, get the connection she's been desperately seeking from him. >> be the smoke, cherry, that sort of world. >> reporter: io ebeborie charming audiences as sydney, at carmy's side as he launches the bear. >> i think the root of their relationship is it's passion and it's respect and seeing that same fire. they want to push themselves, they want to push each other. is it always the best? i don't know. but i think that that's maybe the root of it. >> i'm so very grateful for this. >> reporter: a standup comic and tv writer, adeborie is a breakout star, snagging a golden globe and an emmy for her role. white and backarack taking home emmys too, as well as the show winning for outstanding comedy. this show has been a cultural phenomenon. >> i don't know how you can anticipate anything like that. we were truly shocked. i'm still kind of shocked. >> it's real. i think it's real. there's like -- these characters resonate with a lot of people. >> what's up, man? >> reporter: one of the most talked-about episodes in the last season guest stars jamie lee curtis as carmy and sugar's troubled mother. >> i make things beautiful for them. and no one makes it beautiful for me. >> reporter: jamie lee curtis. >> yeah. >> reporter: absolutely just grabs you and breaks your heart and just draws you in. >> yeah. >> reporter: what was that like to film that? >> it was exciting. it was a joy to watch jamie. >> reporter: at its core, "the bear" is built on a dynamic cast with plenty of characters in the kitchen. >> we have our family, the bearzados, then we have the chosen family. i think people really responded to that. >> reporter: the team now hustling to make it in the fine decline dining world, straining family ties along the way. talk about your character, ritchie. >> i think he's sort of found a way of being in this world that sort of changed a little bit that is inspiring to him and viable. >> he's trying to do the right thing, but it's not always easy. >> reporter: matty matheson, an actual life-long chef, is one of the producers and a star of the show, bringing comic relief as one of the back brothers. >> why are you guys always so mad? >> i'm not this. >> what is this? >> noninevitable. >> reporter: how much fun do you have playing these two bumbleheads? -- it's the best. >> it's theest ever. >> get to play around a bunch. you know, we're just -- i think it's a blast. >> reporter: you've spent a lot of your life in the kitchen. is it a metaphor in a lot of ways for life? >> i think we're able to, like, be there for each other. allow people to have space to make mistakes and still be there for them after to pick themselves up and keep moving. >> reporter: rounding it all out are the unsung heroes in the kitchen, the glue holding things together. marcus is devoted to his ailing mother, but yet he's attracted to this crazy food world. >> i think it's just as simple as, he found his passion. i think marcus and tina both have found, like, this second wind in life where they found a passion later on. >> reporter: where is tina going in season three with her ambition and her newfound confidence? >> i can tell you that she will continue to do her best to try to elevate. but she is also given some surreal challenges. >> reporter: as "the bear" moves into its newest season, its cast still marvels at the collective effort it takes to make the show roar. >> getting to make this work is the gift. also, like, getting to have people really feel impacted by it. >> when we made this show, like, there were very little expectations. and i feel like our climb has been, like, really exciting, really gratifying. >> it's a good thing, man. it's a good thing. >> uh-huh. >> byron: our thanks to deborah. the third season of "the bear" begins streaming on fx on hulu tomorrow. >>> when we come back, how dogged persistence finally paid off for wild thing. or crohn's disease... put it in check with rinvoq... a once-daily pill. when symptoms tried to take control, i got rapid relief and reduced fatigue with rinvoq. check! when flares kept trying to slow me down i got lasting steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check! and when my doctor saw damage, rinvoq helped visibly reduce damage of the intestinal lining. check! for both uc and crohn's: rapid symptom relief lasting steroid-free remission. and visibly reduced damage. check. check. and check! rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers, including lymphoma and skin, heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. put uc and crohn's in check ...and keep them there with rinvoq. ask your gastroenterologist about rinvoq and learn how abbvie can help you save. ahh, yellow! didn't pass the tissue test? 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>> yes. >> hi, i'm anna. >> nice to meet you, this is henry. >> hello. >> juju: henry, who's traveled nearly 3,000 miles to be here, loads up. arriving at his first medical visit in mexico where his heart is checked to make sure he can tolerate sedation. >> everything looks fine. >> yay. so he's good for anesthesia? >> yeah, he's good to go. >> juju: anna calls miguel with the update. >> he's going to be going on to the dental cleaning. >> awesome, cool. >> it's really important to communicate with the pet owners throughout the day. whether they're new pet owners, whether they've used us before, it doesn't matter. they want to make sure their pet's doing okay. >> juju: it's off to the second clinic, where henry will have his teeth cleaned and extracted. as bennie, the three-legged beagle, gets his gums checked. bennie's owners waiting for nous news from their car in california. >> they're doing blood work before anesthesia. they'll call us back after he goes into surgery. >> juju: as a nervous cat, nala, is taken out of her pet carrier, nala's owner explaining how important she is. >> a lot of people my age, they don't have kids right now. she's like my child. >> juju: the owner of the clinic estimates 80% of their clients are from the u.s. >> every year we're getting more and more people. >> juju: he says one reason veterinarian prices are lower in mexico, labor costs less. >> the doctors don't make as much money as they do in the united states. and then you have the cost of your building, which is less because the real estate's less. we don't have medical malpractice insurance or anything like that. so here in mexico, it's really kind of buyer beware in regards to when you go to somebody's clinic for service. >> juju: not every veterinary procedure or drug available in the states is as easy to find in tijuana. >> you can't get total hip replace.s. they don't have radiation available in tijuana yet. there are also some pharmaceuticals that aren't available in tijuana yet that are available in the u.s. >> juju: experts say u.s. pet owners should be aware other countries 'vette standards can be different. >> when we're thinking about taking our pets over the border, pet medical tourism, there's really important concerns. there are different accreditation rules for each veterinary school in other countries. >> bennie, come here! >> second is the stress on the pet itself, right? the idea that we will take a pet who may be ill, bring them over the border, receive treatment, they get transported again over the border, and then back to the home. if your pet is experiencing complications, you may have hidden costs because now you have to extent your stay at that particular location. >> juju: dr. campbell says one way to keep costs down is have regular vet visits. >> they're communicating to us in a different language. it becomes extremely important to always make sure they schedule regular checkups with their veterinarians. >> juju: back in san diego, about 12 hours after they left -- >> hi, bennie. >> juju: all the pets have returned. >> he's pretty alert. he's pretty awake and ready. >> juju: today, miguel says henry's breath is fresh, and he's fully recovered. how did the costs stack up? what's your total? >> all in, i believe it's around $1,200 to $2,000 on the high end. >> juju: that's almost a third of what you'd have been paying if you did it at home? >> right. >> juju: you know, they say you get what you pay for. do you worry that the care might not be as good as the one that's pricier? 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perhaps it's in the faces of everyone here after years of fighting addiction behind bars. signs of hope. >> i didn't want to stand out, and i didn't want to be a target. >> juju: because in prison, showing vulnerability can be dangerous. >> in prison, we're taught not to share. nobody's going to walk up to you and tell you that they're feeling down on or bad, because people consider it as a weakness. >> you make a declaration to yourself -- >> juju: these brave hearts rejected that mindset. it helped earn their freedom from addiction, from trauma, from their past. among them, cameron clark. >> once you give individuals an opportunity to deal with the pain, the hurt, and the trauma that has driven them to the point of incarceration, then and only then can you reverse the process. >> juju: sentenced to life in prison at 15, cameron was among the original 50 men chose anyone 2008 to launch a radical experiment inside the california state prison in solano. >> these two men here, who are a part of that first 50 -- >> juju: the og 50. >> the og 50, right? has set a tone and stage where all our families and all our lives are benefitting from their efforts. >> juju: the program's success now the subject of a new documentary, "the 50," putting their achievements in the spotlight. >> you're the bank. pay it forward. >> juju: before those men in prison could heal others' addictions fueled by trauma, they had to heal themselves. >> we had to go through therapy before we became counselors. we just didn't become counselors. >> reporter: >> juju: the 50 were trained as substance abuse counselors and certified to help others locked up. >> you have to take your identity back. >> juju: many of that first class bickering like brothers 15 years later. >> look at this, young cameron. >> juju: how old were you there? >> whoo! i was 20-something. >> juju: vandrick and al sasser, like cameron, are still helping others in recovery years after walking out of prison. like most of the 50, cameron's trauma began at an early age. >> my father was a very abusive person. he often would physically put his hands on my mother. as a youngky, i couldn't protect her. that was trauma. not being able to have a voice was trauma. >> juju: and your mother had issues with drugs. >> yes. >> juju: and was also abusive? >> yes. >> juju: growing up in compton with no good options, he joined the crips, a memory recreated in the film. a gang member at 13. taught to deal drug busy a family friend. >> he gives me marijuana. he tells me, this is 20, this is 10, if somebody tries to take advantage of you, here, you shoot them. at 13 years old. i knew what this was about. >> juju: you were being initiated into gang life. >> yeah. my addiction was violence. the gang addiction prevention piece deals with a lifestyle and all of that. >> juju: two years into gang life, cameron was arrested after a fatal shooting, faces charges for second degree accessory to felony murder, age 15. >> it was a dumb decision. that was made. and i found myself incarcerated, facing a life sentence. never been like that before. >> juju: while behind bars, cameron soon found himself facing the impact of his crime in a way he never expected. at one point, you encounter the victim's nephew? >> he said, "i want to talk to you for a minute." you know. my uncle used to take us wrestling, he used to take us fishing. he said, i just wanted to let you know who he was. that had a profound mechanic on me, because i didn't have no father. >> juju: it makes you emotional now. >> it makes me emotional. he humanized him to me. >> juju: finding humanity while serving life in prison. earning his counselor certification while incarcerated. tell me why it's important for somebody who's incarcerated to have counseling with somebody they can really relate to, somebody who's also behind bars? >> i think one of the biggest things is your presentation. that's what allowed other inmates to open up to us and talk to us. >> it all comes down to, if i change your thinking, i can change your behavior. now i got to go back and check and see why you think this way. and it leads to that trauma. i got something special. >> juju: shaul irving, a correctional counselor at the time, hand-selected the first 50 men, launching the prison program. >> if you're going to change some of these inmates, if they're going to listen to another inmate before they listen to me -- when you look at these guys, they can change. but you have to give them the roadmap to change. you were an innocent child, right? something changed. right? >> i was always in the back. didn't like being in the front of things. >> juju: saul's insight paid off. the legacy of 50 going strong, branching beyond the prison in solano, no longer happening just behind bars. brenton geezer is director of the award-winning documentary "the 50." his film helping amplify the program's message, screened in 12 states. you are my cousin's son, so i've known you a long time. >> yes. >> juju: when you think of the themes of "the 50," what stands out? >> healing and the idea that healing is an ongoing journey. it's a never-ending journey. it's a messy and an arduous one. >> juju: that healing work continues and helps keep them from relapsing and returning to prison. >> the recidivism rate of the program, about 500 people have graduated the program and come out on the outside. so we're looking at less than 1% of them going back in. >> juju: wow. >> when you compare that with the u.s. rate of recidivism, those numbers aren't even close. >> this is about advancing and improving and continue to reassimilate back into society. >> juju: it's just as valuable here on the outside. >> the vast majority of these men are in the social service sector. case managers, drug and alcohol counselors, working with people on the margins, supporting them through their own healing adjourn knees. >> this is rehabilitation. this is true rehabilitation. >> juju: they're continuing to be healers. >> absolutely. >> juju: cameron is now a father of four and living with purpose. >> it's okay for you to be going through what you're going through right now, but we can change it up. >> juju: change is it up but keeping the memory of where he came from close. naming the service dove. that was your name when you were in the crips? 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>> i wanted to get the truth out there. >> reporter: if you'll remember the story of sherri papini, well, you're in for a bit of a roller coaster. the saga began back in 2016 when 34-year-old sherri papini went out for a jog. to most of the world, sherri papini was the mother of two with the picture book perfect family. >> a kiss for the camera with sunflower seeds. >> reporter: who seemingly out of nowhere had her life torn apart, vanishing in broad daylight. >> 911, what is your emergency? >> so i just got home from work, and my wife wasn't there, which is unusual. >> what's your wife's name? >>s-h-e-r-i. >> reporter: in total, 22 days pass after sherri papini went missing. but then on thanksgiving morning 2016, a trucker finds woman in distress on the side of the road. >> 911 emergency, what you reporting? >> hi, i have an emergency. there is a lady on the side of the road needing help. her name is sherri panini? >> can i talk to her? >> here. >> please, please! >> sherri, i need you to listen to me. listen to me. do you know where you are? >> no. no. i've been in a car. >> okay. take a deep breath, sweetie. who chained you up? do you know the person or were you kidnapped? >> i don't know, i don't know. >> listen, i have help on the way. >> reporter: pretty soon news breaks that the horrifying story of that missing mom seemed to have a storybook ending. >> we're very ecstatic to report the sherri papini has been located. >> missing for nearly a month under mysterious circumstances, has been found alive. >> reporter: but the horror sherri tells authorities that she lived through is written all over her body. bruises, her hair chopped off, her skin branded. >> what was the car? what did she look like? >> it was an suv. it was a dark colored suv. >> dark colored suv. and there is just one person? >> two. >> two? >> two women. >> there was an older one and a younger one. >> they were hispanic. they spoke spanish a lot. >> reporter: and from there, the story only got more unusual. >> i think she may have tased me. i don't remember. i don't remember. the next thing i remember is my clothes were gone. >> reporter: perhaps most harrowing, branding marks on sherri's back which spelled out the word "exodus." >> my skin made a sizzling popping sound. it hurt so bad. >> she literally lived through hell. the things she told me that she did. acting like she was tucking in our kids, and she told me one time she took some piece of cloth and rolled it up like it was violet, and she would rock it. she's so strong. >> reporter: but not long after sherri papini's story begins to unravel. from inconsistencies in what she said happened to her to stories of infidelity, and a history of running away, leaving some to question was all this a hoax? there started to be rumors that circulated that sherri had something to do with her own disappearance. did that anger you? >> in my darkest hours, i obviously explored any possible outcome, you know. could she have just left? there is no evidence. >> reporter: but in 2020, a break in the case, the moment that changes everything. when authorities call the couple in for a update, they tell them they've identified sherri's ex-boyfriend james reyes based off of dna collected from sherri's clothing. what is it like sitting in that room? >> i am ecstatic. we have a lead. we've got 'em. so i'm very happy in that moment. and then you can quickly see how it turns when they do finally say james reyes. my body language you can see, i'm starting to scoot away. and it's really hitting me what you find out in the documentary is the very first night i meet with the sheriffs, i tell them about james. >> reporter: authorities capturing audio from the moments they approached reyes about sherri papini. >> were you guarding sherri papini? >> i didn't kidnap her. i just friend asked me for help, and that was that. >> what did she say? >> she was trying to get away from her husband. has your husband beat you? has he raped you? i don't know what her deal was. >> reporter: she was telling other people that you were abusive. were those allegations true? >> of course not. >> reporter: did you ever physically or mentally abuse her? >> never. >> reporter: sherri's ex-boyfriend james told authorities during the 22 days she was in his apartment hitting herself to create bruises and burning herself. >> how did all that stuff come about? >> she did it while she was here. she hit herself to create a bruise or something. >> reporter: he also admitted to sherri asking him to brand her which he did. he said he had given the name james reyes as a possible suspect when she first went missing in 2016. the sheriff's office had not comment odd about this information. in august 2020, they bring her and keith in to confront her with the truth. >> the dna on you belongs to james reyes. we talked to him. we've been on. it's not an abduction. >> no. >> i picked her up. >> no. >> he passed the polygraph test, sherri. >> that's not what happened. what did happen, sherri? >> i don't know. no. there is no way. it's james. there's no way. there's no way. >> it was my fault that i was flirting with other men. it was such a stupid thing to do. i love my husband. i love my children. >> that's understandable. >> a stupid thing talking to other men. >> not a crime. lying to me today, yes, a crime. >> reporter: in march 2022, sherri papini was arrested and later convicted of lying to a federal officer. she served ten months in prison. abc news reached out to sherri and to her ex-boyfriend james reyes for comment. neither responded. as for keith papini -- >> i'm the idiot husband that stayed around the whole time. >> reporter: years later, he says the entire saga still haunts him. >> it's very difficult for me. i loved this woman for so long. and it's almost like there is still good there. i remember just even filing for divorce. like i didn't want to. >> reporter: she apologized in court. but has sherri ever apologized to you or the children? >> no. never. she has no remorse that i have ever witnessed or seen. >> juju: our thanks to matt. you can catch the full series "perfect wife" streaming on hulu beginning thursday. >>> when we return, a grammy winning songwriter says the music industry lets its cash cows like diddy and russell simmons do whatever they want. she's determined to force change. from the top down. type 2 diabetes? 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>> you follow me on social media. you see me go really hard about songwriter compensation. and the thing is there were so many creatives who felt the same way as me. >> juju: that feeling is what? >> underserved. not protected. songwriters are behind the scenes. because of that, all kind of stuff happening to us that nobody knows about because you don't see it. >> byron: tiffany launched initiatives to combat sexual abuse in the industry by providing financial resources to help cover therapy, legal fees and time to recover away from work. >> we challenged a bunch of major record companies, music studios to commit to creating safer space, and none of them signed it. >> byron: what does that tell you? >> it's a problem. the music industry is a very predatory industry. >> byron: but while some companies did not get on board, industry giants like the recording academy, broadcast music inc., and the national music publishers association signed the 100%ers pledge and committed to creating a safe space for staff and to report any inappropriate behavior. >> signing the pledge gave us a way to publicly acknowledge the work that we were doing, but also join forces. it really will take the entire industry being involved for the change to be effective. >> reporter: brian beutler is the vice president of diversity, equity and inclusion recording at the academy, the organization responsible for the grammy awards. he says the time for change is now. >> i think the industry had a dramatic shift in 2020 when we were having a global pandemic and america had the racial reckoning that it had. i think that that was a trigger for everyone in the industry to really focus on what it means for the industry to be diverse, to be inclusive, and to be equitable. >> byron: that same year in 2020, the recording academy launched the black music collective to celebrate black music creators and professionals. >> through black music collective we have an hbcu program where we give out scholarships to five students a year, and then we also pick two hbcus to give grants to. and those grants help their music program. >> byron: for tiffany and her organization, 100 percenters, she says compensation is another pillar of their fight. >> i call out ceos of major corporations and organize and agitate. and so i'm a disrupter. i'm trying to get a union election going, get on the national labor board's radar and do something to really change this. >> reporter: tiffany claimed she lost wages when she says sean combs swaushed and album she was working on with his ex-girlfriend, cassie ventura. >> this is my career. this is my dreams. those are my records. if those records would have come out in 2015, i would have been paid more before because it was the streaming era. i was at the top of my game, and he knocked me off. >> byron: why didn't the album come out? >> because he was using the music to control cassie. >> byron: in a statement to action news, his attorney schedule mr. combs cannot comment on litigation, cannot comment on pending litigation and cannot address every allegation picked up by the press from any source no matter how reliable. cassie and tiffany became close friends while working together. tiffany checking in with cassie after the singer filed a lawsuit against combs last november. the first of at least seven filed against him in recent months. combs and cassie settled for an undisclosed amount the day after she filed a lawsuit. combs said settlinging wasn't an admission of guilt. but for tiffany, she says it's time for the industry to face the music. >> sean combs is not created in a vacuum. the music industry enables behavior like this. i feel like i'm standing up for myself. i'm standing up for young me. i'm standing up for all my friends and my peers that have gone through this that are in a position to speak up. >> byron: what's next for you? 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>> no, it wasn't. >> juju: the saga inspiring movies like "to die for." >> did you get the gun? >> yeah. >> juju: with nicole kidman and joaquin phoenix, and the true crime tv "murder in new hampshire" starring helen hunt as smart. >> the defendant initiated an affair with billy flynn. you're telling us that just you and pam are spending the night together? >> i think it's weird, man. >> juju: smart, now 56, plead for a hearing with new hampshire governor sununu hoping to have her sentence of life without parole commuted. >> imrespectfully asking for the opportunity to come before you, the new hampshire executive council, and have an honest conversation with you. >> she's been in prison a long time. she's got nothing to lose here. >> juju: in 1990, the execution-style murder of 24-year-old greg smart shattered this close-knit town of derry, new hampshire. pam, who worked as a media coordinator at a local high school, seemingly grieving for her husband. authorities soon discover her illicit relationship with 16-year-old billy flynn. >> pamela smart had two big problems at trial. number one is all the young people involved in this turned on her. number two is there was an audiotape, a secret wire that one of them made of her, when in the end was devastating. >> juju: cecilia pierce, pam's student intern at the school, recorded multiple conversations with smart which became a major part of the trial. >> juju: all teenage accomplices took plea deals and testified against smart at trial. court tv capturing a pivotal moment. >> she told me she'd leave the backdoor unlock. particular particular not to hurt her dog. and that we could ransack the apartment, the condo, take what we wanted. and when greg came home, we were to kill him. >> juju: the two boys who committed the crime, flynn and pete randall, served 25 years in prison for second-degree murder. both were released in 2015. only smart remains behind bars. greg smart's uncle, jim smart, says that's exactly where she belongs. >> she still is not answering the question that she had greg smart murdered. and until she does actually say that she planned it and made the kids do it, then i will never be okay with her getting out of jail. >> juju: i've been covering the smart case for years. most recently talking with pamela last year by phone from bedford women's prison. what exactly do you think you're responsible for when it comes to greg's death? >> i'm responsible for not picking up on the warning signs that were there when bill was becoming more obsessive and unhinged, for not doing something about it, for becoming involved with him in the first place. i was married. i should have been better. and because of my failures, greg, an innocent person, is no longer here. >> she's never looked the camera and the fais face and said, yes, i got my lover, billy flynn, to kill my husband. until she admits responsibility, i would say no one is entitled to have their sentence considered. >> everybody loved greg. he had the prettiest smile. he was a jokester. he loved life. he didn't deserve to be murdered. >> juju: pamela's attorneys point out she's earned multiple graduate degrees, is an or daned minister, and a model inmate. >> she guides over inmates. she helps correctional officers at the facility. she mediates disputes. she literally saved another inmate's life. >> juju: smart has asked for a hearing to lessen her sentence three different times. each time, she's been denied. in 2019, i asked her about one of those failed appeals. wa does redemption mean to you? >> it means that we don't define people by the very worst thing they've ever done in life. it means that people change. people grow. and they evolve over time. >> juju: smart's attorney saying, if she gets a hearing, she'll be forthcoming. >> we invite all of greg's family to be at that hearing. we invite them to submit questions to pam, and pam will answer each and every one of them. >> juju: reacting to smart's most recent appeal, governor sununu telling abc news, new hampshire's process for commutation or pardon requests is fair and thorough. pamela smart will be given the same opportunity to petition the council for a herring as any other individual. but greg's uncle says it will take more than a hearing to change his mind. >> i'll go to my deathbed believing she shouldn't be out until she admits what she did. >> byron: our thanks to juju. when we return, we're one on one with comic margaret cho, who lets us in on how her boundary-pushing comedy has dodged cancel culture all these years. with apretude, a prescription medicine used to reduce the risk of hiv without daily prep pills. with one shot every other month, just 6 times a year. in studies, apretude was proven superior to a daily prep pill in reducing the risk of hiv. you must be hiv negative, to receive apretude and get tested before each injection. if you think you were exposed to hiv or have flu-like symptoms, tell your doctor right away. apretude does not prevent other sexually transmitted infections. practice safer sex to reduce your risk. don't take apretude if you're allergic to it or taking certain medicines, as they may interact. tell your doctor if you've had liver or kidney problems or mental health concerns. if you have a rash or other allergic reactions, stop apretude and get medical help right away. serious side effects include allergic reactions, liver problems, and depression. some of the most common side effects include injection-site reactions and headache. you must receive apretude as scheduled. ask your doctor about long-acting apretude. and prep without pills. save at apretude.com. 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that's a different story. it's why we're here. that's a promise. not a promo. ♪ >> byron: welcome back. after decades of being told her comic style was too coarse or too queer or too asian, even not asian enough, marking cho cho is being celebrated among legends in a new doc on trail-blazing lgbtq comics, part of "nightline's" "pride out loud" series. here's abc's demarco morgan. >> welcome to might line, margaret cho, good to see you. you realize you're an icon? >> i mean -- no, really? i don't know. i guess -- thank you. but how wonderful. that's fantastic. >> what is it like to hear people say, i am doing this because of you? >> that i love. because when i started, there were no asian american comedians. there were relatively few women comedians. and really very few queer comedians. and so i felt very alone and very isolated. so now that there's so many people who credit me with wanting to do this, i love it. it's my greatest achievement. >> let's talk about this documentary, "outstanding comedy revelation" features lily to tomlin, rosie o'donnell who you've looked up to, eddie izzard, sandra bernhard. let's take a look. >> that connection that we have with other gay gay artists is really powerful. and sandra was just -- i mean, everything she did, i just wanted to -- i wanted to be like her. >> comedy is that balm that says, i'm going to soothe you and smooth out all of your fears, and i'm going to liberate you from your own repression. >> it's so fascinating. it's honest. it's raw. why was it important for you to take part in it? >> well, think it's the culmination of my life's work. it's the history what was i've been doing all this time, for this 41 years, and all of us as these queer comedians, we've just finally found ourselves in a place where we can do this. and we can tell the world about what we've been doing. >> you know what there's always like a fine line to walk when you're on the stage. how do you balance the two? especially, you know in a world now where we're dealing with cancel culture? >> i think cancel culture really only asks that voices who are empowered have empathy. that we are speaking from a place of understanding, of intersectionality, which is something that i've always done. because i can't help it. i am so many intersections. i'm a woman, i'm queer, i'm asian american, i'm all of these different identities that i have to sort of walk around in between, and they don't always connect. so it's about learning to lean into empathy as a tool when writing, which is something comedians never had to do. it just asked us to be more skilled. >> and you've used your platform when it comes to social change. how can comedy be used as a tool? >> like, am i gay? am i straight? and i realized -- i'm just slutty. >> you're talking about tough issues like racism, sexism, homophobia. >> oh, yeah. comedians have always challenged those things. these hard messages are easier taken if it's done with a joke. and it's done with a laugh. and it's done with love and empathy. >> you remember there was a time when coming out was career-ending. what are your thoughts now for the younger comedians? this new generation who's like, take me as i am? >> it's so wonderful. it's so exciting that this new generation of amazis g can present themselves as they are. they're really identity-forward, which is so exciting and what we've all been working towards. >> what's the biggest compliment that you give to yourself that you've gotten from so many people who have looked up to you? >> any time i see a comedian like bowen yang or ally wong or awkwafina or all of these different people i'm like, there's my child. that's my child. and that's really true. >> let's talk about your parents. they ran a gay bookstore in san francisco. what type of impact do they have on who you are today? >> well, the impact i think really was about siding with other minorities. they wanted to find community with other people that had been oppressed. so we always lived in black neighborhoods. we always worked in gay neighborhoods. we were always part of these different oppressed minorities. because together, we had power. and so that's really an important thing that they taught me is to find your people, find your people who know what it's like to be like you. >> speaking of race and kind of gender identity issues, how can we use comedy to sort of tackle these issues but bring the country together? we're so divided, now more than ever. >> it's really a sad thing that we're so divided. there are certain things that should be common denominators, certain things we all should be able to laugh at. i think we're kinding getting there. when we can get these documentaries out there, we can get our stories out there, people can see how similar we all actually are. >> you said in the documentary that comedy is life-affirming. how so? >> it's hope. when you can laugh about something, you can have a glimmer of hope that you'll survive it. in its most basic way, laughter is a sharp intake of breath, which guarantees life for the next moment. so it's truly life-affirming. >> what do you want to be remembered mostly for? >> that i'm showing anybody, they can do it to r. that, to me, the best way to be remembered. >> you did it, you can remember that. thank you very much, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and the best of luck to you, too. thank you. >> byron: our thanks to demarco. >>> when we come back, remembering basketball legend jerry west. feeling sluggish or weighed down? could be a sign that your digestive system isn't at its best. but a little metamucil everyday can help. metamucil's psyllium fiber gels to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down and also helps lower cholesterol and slows sugar absorption to promote healthy blood sugar levels. so you can feel lighter and more energetic. lighten everyday the metamucil way. feel less sluggish & weighed down after just 14 days. sign up for the 2 week challenge at metamucil.com you can't leave without cuddles. but, you also can't leave covered in hair. with bounce pet, you can cuddle and brush that hair off. bounce, it's the sheet. can neuriva support your brain health? 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"i am the president, but i am also a dad. jill and i love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today. so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery, and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that." moments after the verdict, i met with juror number 10 in the garage. some of the critical evidence for him, hunter's own text message sent the day after he bought that gun saying he was waiting for a dealer named mookie. >> didn't buy the notion that for those few days around the purchase of the gun, he wasn't abusing drugs? >> no, not at all. >> this case was about illegal choices the defendant made while in the throes of addiction. his choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun. and the choice to then possess that gun. >> reporter: for hunter biden, it was a long day of reckoning. he faces a maximum of 25 years in prison, though experts say he's unlikely to receive anything like that. "i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this past week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community than i am disappointed by the outcome. recovery is possible, by the grace of god, and i am blessed to experience that gift one day at a time." >> juju: our thanks to terry. >>> we now step into the "way back machine" with '80s that's right throb andrew mccarthy as our guide. if you were coming of age in that awesome decade, the brat pack was probably at the center of your cultural awareness. in that era of fluffy hair and skin though ties, mccarthy and his cool kids clique epitomized everything that was hip. but he says it's taken years for him to lean into all that. >> who wants to throwback a few bloody marys on me? >> juju: it was the '80s. the era of big hair and valley girl vibes and a cluster of cool kids in hit movies like "st. el elmo's fire" came to define gen-x, the brat pack. but one of those stars felt burdened by it all. >> it change hot i would become. professionally, personally. in every way. i recoiled from it for years. >> juju: andrew mccarthy spent decades trying to make peace with the brat pack label after fans first fell in love with him opposite molly ringwald in "pretty in pink." >> i love you. >> juju: now he's connecting with some of his former costars. >> this is andrew mccarthy calling you. i hope you're well. a long time. >> juju: exploring what the label "brat pack" really meant for each of them in his new hulu doc "brats" debuting over the weekend at the tribeca film festival. >> for those of us experiencing it from the inside, the vertebra the pack was something very different. >> hey, you around? >> it definitely really irritated me. i felt, like, a sense of it being unjust. i just felt like it didn't represent us, and i felt like it was a real limited perspective. >> juju: what made you do the film? why now? >> i was very interested in the notion of how the past doesn't stay in the past. the past evolves and is alive in our present. 180 degrees different from the truth of my experience in 1985. >> juju: the '80s brought a seismic shift in pop culture. mtv made its national debut. >> ladies and gentlemen, rock 'n' roll. ♪ >> juju: shopping malls were it place for teens to hang out. and hollywood took note, shifting focus to young ensemble flicks like the john hughes directed "breakfast club" starringaldy sheedy, molly ringwald, judd nelson, and emilio estevez. >> andrew? you've got to be number one! >> "st. elmo's fire," "like "the breakfast club," deals with young people in an honest fashion. it portrays them as thinking human beings instead of these mindless, crazy little children running around thinking about sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. >> so suddenly kids are having genuine credit for genuine emotions, that these emotions are important and they're real and they're vital. so what better fodder for movies than actually young people where everything so is life and death? >> juju: in the center of that universe, the brat pack, a term coined in a 1985 "new york" magazine article. a play on "the rat pack" from the '50s and '60s. that article painting many of those young stars as privileged and entitled. >> it's preceded me into every room i've gone into professionally. i used to drag it around like the carcass of youth. >> reporter: mccarthy made his big-screen debut in the 1983 film "class" alongside rob lowe. >> got to straighten out, get serious, be responsible, clean up our act. >> absolutely. >> reporter: his clear talent and boyish charm later getting him cast alongside other brat pack members. defining who belonged in that crowd is ultimately subjective. >> the brat pack was just us. >> people say molly's in the brat pack. >> really? molly ringwald? >> i don't see demi or ally being part of that. >> demi, ally, jon cryer. >> i am not in the brat pack. >> juju: why do you think you took it so personally? why did you give it so much power? >> well, probably i was just so insecure and unsure what to do. wait a minute. i felt like i wasn't being seen. when you're coming of age and you're not settled in yourself, it's a confusing time. >> juju: i think every generation sort of thinks of 20-somethings as privileged and clueless. how much of the sort of brat label, which ended up labeling our entire generation -- >> yeah, what's the matter with kids today? we're stigmatized in hollywood for being those punks. but we didn't realize what was happening outside in ohio and everywhere else that kids are going, oh, man, finally someone is speaking for me. >> juju: someone sees me. >> someone sees me, exactly. >> reporter: mccarthy had written about his experience in "brats: an '80s story" but says he hadn't talked to most of his fellow brat packers in three decades. and is there an easy answer who why you didn't see most of them for 30 years? >> i'm a loner. >> juju: you're the brooding type? >> no, i live in new york, they live there -- i mean, everybody's also working, getting on with life, have kids. you have kids, you fall down a rabbit hole in that. >> i'm in retrospectives all time. i turn everything down. >> juju: how come you're talking to me? >> because you called me. because you asked. and also, i thought it was time that we sort of clear the air of a couple of things. >> juju: those reunions were clearly happy reunions? >> they were really -- that was the great surprise for me in doing the movie was how much affection that we have for each other. we're kind of from the same litter, you know what i mean? >> juju: so it's primal? >> yeah. all our lives just changed from that. >> not only being in the brat pack, but being around at that time not only changed all of our lives, it changed what entertainment is. >> juju: mccarthy has been in and out of hollywood but has also been a successful travel writer for the past two decades. recently documenting an expedition across spain with his son in a book called "walking with sam." and what have you discovered on that part of your journey of the travel writing part of it? >> when i left home at 17, i never looked back in and my relationship with my dad ended at that moment. i didn't with all my heart want that to happen with my kid. i wanted to rewrite our relationship on a more adult and adult basis. that was an amazing blessing for me. >> juju: mccarthy says his film has given him a chance to rekindle some of his ode old friendships and has helped him look ahead. what do you think other people can learn from your journey? >> we all tell ourselves narratives so we can be the hero of our own life. we all make events mean certain things so we can justify and be comfortable with how we got to this moment now. often that has very little to do with what happened. if we're going to write a narrative for our life, maybe we can write one that feels good. >> juju: "brats" streams on hulu beginning this thursday. >>> when we come back, "the outsiders" comes to broadway. why the classic story means so much for so many. ♪ great expectations ♪ n's disea. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. ♪ now's the time to ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. when anyone in this house wears white, it doesn't stay white for long. white? 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"the outsiders" is another beloved '80s story of teenage alienation and belonging, loneliness, and love, and the journey to self-reliance. these timeless messages are now appearing on the broadway stage for the first time, and reaching a whole new audience on the great white way. here's abc's stephanie ramos. ♪ >> reporter: it's the beloved tale of teenage isolation. ♪ darrell was on his way up in the world ♪ >> reporter: friendship and the struggle to fit in. >> i wish i'd just disappear. >> you don't mean that. >> i do mean it, ponyboy. >> reporter: "the outsiders." the classic young adult novel adapted into a thrilling new broadway musical. >> to be able to explore these characters more with music and really hear what's going on in their heart, it's a really special thing. >> reporter: the show's producer none other than angelina jolie, who collaborated with director johnya taymor. her daughter vivienne credited as a coproducer. >> it's personal for everyone. and everybody relates to a different character. >> reporter: the novel also adapted into an iconic film directed by francis ford coppola in 1983. >> don't go, ponyboy. >> reporter: it launched the careers of many young stars who would go on to become household names. tom cruise. ralph macchio. rob lowe. emilio esthats very. matt dillon. in the musical tony grant plays ponyboy curtis. the sensitive teen caught between the working-class greasers and the affluent soshs in 1960s tulsa. he's nominated for a tony for his role. ♪ can't you see that we're the lucky ones ♪ >> my mom gave me the book to read when i was 14. and i just remember the moment when i cracked it open. wow, like -- this is amazing. >> reporter: the heart of the musical is ponyboy's relationship with best friend and outsider among outsiders johnny caid. >> dang, that's some sunrise. >> yeah. >> reporter: played by sky lakota lynch. >> the mist off the pond, how it's all, like, gold and silver? >> reporter: lynch also nominated for a tony for best featured actor. so you've talked about growing up mixed-race and feel that will sense of never truly belonging to one culture or one group? >> my dad is native american, my mom was ethiopian. i looked at johnny, what makes him johnny? that he doesn't really have anybody besides pony. and i was like, oh my god, that's like me, that's how i connected. >> reporter: finding one's chosen family reflected in the cast's close relationships. many are broadway outsiders. ♪ life came along ♪ >> reporter: brody and brent comber making their debuts on the great white way with this show. >> when we take a bow every night, we know that we're not alone because we have each other. and we're all of us in the same place in our careers and in our lives. >> it is also helpful to have a few pop >> reporter: like you. >> i wasn't thinking of me, but definitely. i stir the pot, definitely. >> reporter: veteran actor joshua boone playing dallas winston. a mentor figure for pony and johnny. in this telling of the story, he's pursued and targeted by law enforcement. how do you approach that role? >> life experience. when i first read the book, the greasers were black people. you know, they were described as white, but i was like, i know these types of interactions. ♪ if he comes back there's a price to pay ♪ >> reporter: and brent comber playing pony's oldest brother, darrell curtis. >> there ain't no way of knowing -- >> reporter: he's had this father role forced upon him, taking care of his brothers? >> me and my character, we're very different people. i have to build a bridge, and the bridge is, i've been a kid. i know what it's like to take on circumstances that i feel like are beyond myself. >> reporter: the musical sticking close to the 1967 story created by author susie hinton, who was kind of a literary outsider, so young when she wrote it that her publisher suggested she use her initials, "s.e." >> the first reviewers who picked this book up, see what it's about, and think, well, a girl wouldn't know anything about this. and review it with that kind of bias. >> reporter: teachers helped spread the word about the book, using it as a way to get students interested in reading. >> it's got themes the kids could stand. the outsiders, well, everybody feels like an outsider. >> reporter: susie giving the musical her blessing, too. >> what a great cast we've got. i mean, they are so talented. i'm very, very proud to be associated with it. >> reporter: susie passing the baton to director donna taymor. >> she said one of the most important things for me which was, have your own vision. to hear from the source, to make an adaptation, was a gift. >> reporter: taymor, the niece of broadway legend julie taymor, blending broadway showcases. ♪ i've got great expectations ♪ >> reporter: with intense ensemble scenes culminating in an electrifying greasers versus soshs rumble in the rain. >> that is one of the best pieces of writing, to me, in the play. it talks about mud and rain and how, by the end of the fight, the characters are indistinguishable from one another. >> reporter: the musical a new opportunity for audiences to reconnect with their inner ponyboy or johnny or dally. >> i really wanted to be able to connect with either the literal teenager in the audience or that self that still lives inside of us. ♪ the morning light and the dawn it brings ♪ >> "the outsiders" has been a part of my life for so long. it saved me. i hope the kids keep taking the message and keep the story alive, because susie wrote something truthful. ♪ stay gold ♪ >> juju: our thanks to stephanie. we'll be watching for the show to vibe for all the tonys this sunday. >>> when we return, he's gobbled his way to glory year after year, but this year, joey chestnut's turning over a new leaf. verything. 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how did it happen? >> the dobbs leak was an act of malice. it seemed. they never found out who did it, but it was done to try to perhaps influence public debate. this just looks like a like a mess up. either way, they're both serious security breaches in the court. it is dated the 26th of june, though, so it does seem that it was intended to be released sometimes at the last minute. justices want to revise what's going on, and i will say that in reading this, justice alito has a dissent in which he deliberately targets three of his fellow justices in rather personal terms, and maybe wanted to tone that down or juice it up . >> and terry, given how, you know, the ruling gets released, what's the likelihood that this draft opinion, as reported by bloomberg, is final? >> when dobbs opinion leaked that when it came out formally, was almost word for word the same opinion. so that didn't change at all, and i would be surprised if it changed much. they put a lot of work into this, and so what we learn from it is that the court is not ready to resolve this clash between idaho's ban on abortion, except when necessary, to prevent death, and that federal law that guarantees that anyone who comes into an emergency room gets the emergency care they need, even if that requires the termination of a pregnancy, they aren't going to resolve that, in part because the idaho law that they're looking at has been changed in the intervening months by the state legislature and the state supreme court. all right. >> well, terry moran, as always, thank you. let's bring in now abc's rachel scott who has been watching the reporting on dobbs fallout for months and months now. rachel, what are you hearing from abortion providers in idaho? abortion providers in idaho say that if this is accurate, they are calling this a small measure of justice, insisting that it would only be a temporary win. >> and they are emphasizing the word temporary because if this is accurate, it would allow providers in idaho to perform emergency abortions to stabilize the health of a pregnant person, to protect that patient's health. if it is at risk. but again, that word temporary, you just heard there from terry moran, they could see even more legal challenges that could put that back on hold. and more so than anything right now, you have abortion providers who are talking about just how confusing the laws have been in that state. so not only are abortion providers trying to stay up to date with what the laws currently are, so are the patients. if this is accurate, doctors in that state are asking how many more women could be caught hanging in the balance, could be caught in limbo, could be pushed to the brink of death's door waiting on the supreme court to ultimately weigh in. >> either way, our thanks to both terry and rachel coming up. affirmative action. we follow two students navigating college admissions after the supreme court struck down affirmative action. >> at simplisafe, your safety is the only thing that matters. we designed smarter ways to detect motion for fast emergency response. we create hd cameras so you can see what's happening in your home from anywhere, all powered by fast protect technology. exclusively from simplisafe. for faster police response, now install our advanced system your way. have a pro? 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>> it's just a huge part of my identity that i didn't really care if a school does not want to admit me because i'm asian american, then there's not much i can do about that, because it's a part of me that i just can't get rid of. >> by all accounts, david is an academically exceptional student with an impressive resume of accomplishments and extracurriculars. his high school, stuyvesant in new york city, is one of the top rated public schools in the country. >> my gpa is 97.3 out of 100. my s.a.t. score is 1560, and extracurricular wise, i'm one of the captains for the stuyvesant math team. i'm a team captain for the new york city math team. i'm the starting right side for our school's volleyball team. i'm in the all city latin jazz ensemble. >> he applied early decision to harvard. in december. he found out the college deferred him. >> if it's deferred, that means i still have a chance. i love you all right, i love you. >> then. more disappointing news over the next few months, as he began to hear back from the over a dozen schools that he applied to yale, waitlist no. >> princeton. it was all like bad news or results i wouldn't have expected. like reject waitlist, reject waitlist. >> in march, he learned harvard had rejected him. >> i feel like i also owe it to my parents to sort of make them proud, and i feel like by not getting into harvard, i was sort of disappointing them. but more importantly, i was disappointing myself. >> adam mortara, who helped argue the case that struck down affirmative action on behalf of students for fair admissions, says harvard had previously unfairly held asian american applicants to a higher standard. >> our econometrics expert was able to show that, in fact, that admissions penalty existed. it was predominantly centered in the so-called personal rating, where asian applicants were given lower personal ratings than white applicants, african american applicants or hispanic applicants. >> that so-called personal rating could include traits like humor, kindness, sensitivity, and leadership. while david does not believe race played a role in his rejection from harvard, he says he thinks implicit bias is nearly impossible to erase. >> so i think that the stereotypes are that asian people are sort of reserved, stick to themselves, and just do math problems in their free time. >> did you feel like you had, though purposefully go out of your way to show, hey, i'm not like the stereotypical asian. >> i think i had to, i feel like i did kind of have to prove that i'm not the stereotypical asian. >> harvard has denied any bias or discrimination against asian american applicants in their admission process, telling abc news in part, harvard has taken several steps to arrive in compliance with the ruling from the supreme court. these changes have been made across our recruitment application and admissions practices, but critics like rising harvard senior clive lawrence says they're not so sure there is this real threat of the proportion of black students at harvard decreasing over the years. >> i feel a concern about a chilling effect that black students who otherwise would have applied now are worried that they'll be, facing disadvantages because of the decision. >> that possible chilling effect is something joelle castillo felt as an afro-latina applicant. >> i think some of my fears are that institutions don't know what to do in terms of, this ban and they aren't giving a much guidance. they're already, so many obstacles that disproportionately affect students of color. would you rather i read to you the little bit that i wrote? >> she workshopped her approach with her advisor at the kaplan educational foundation when she was applying to transfer from a new york city community college. >> the decision mentioned that, you know, it's affects your lived experience, right, that, you know, that is that is a relevant aspect that you can that you can address, right? >> her lived experience included a lot of obstacles. >> i had a very difficult upbringing. i would say my mother was trying her best to mother three girls. after my father had been arrested and imprisoned, we often found ourselves moving from place to place and sometimes not having anywhere to live at all, she says. >> her struggles at home affected her education. when high school ended, she immediately started working several jobs to help support her family. almost a decade later, she enrolled in community college and set her sights on a four year university. >> i had to play catch up to the other applicants, students that have had the opportunity to have tutors and family supporting them throughout the college application, whereas i was kind of going in blind. >> she ultimately decided to write about her cultural background, and with a 4.0 gpa, joelle found herself with an impressive list of options. >> i mean, i ended up receiving acceptances from most of the schools that i applied to, such as princeton, brown, smith, bard, mount holyoke. >> she ended up choosing brown, but says she still worries about diversity on campus. >> if we don't continue to try and elevate students of color, that our campuses are going to look the way that they did many years before, where there were less students of color. >> according to a 2017 new york times analysis looking at the impact of affirmative action over a 35 year period at the top colleges and universities, asian enrollment largely increased, while hispanic and black students mostly remained disproportionately underrepresented. nearly 70% of americans supported the end of affirmative action, and some who fought for its end say the college admissions process won't truly be fair until colleges stop giving preference to children of alumni called legacies. >> there's no reason that one child should be afforded an admissions preference to an elite university because their parent went there, as opposed to the child of, say, a second generation immigrant family whose parents did not have the opportunity to attend that institution. >> there's widespread scrutiny over the practice. last year, the u.s. department of education launched a civil rights investigation into harvard's use of legacy admissions. a number of elite schools have already done away with legacy admissions, including johns hopkins university and amherst college. states like virginia and maryland have also joined colorado to ban the practice at its public universities, with more states considering similar proposals. but opposition has come from an unexpected group of alumni. >> it's a really big deal for us as american descendants of the enslaved to be legacy and legacy families. >> amanda calhoun is a second generation yale grad. she's the second doctor calhoun in her family, following in her father's footsteps. amanda and her father say they feel affirmative action in its outreach programs were transformative. >> we're talking about rich white families to enjoy being legacies for now. over 300 years. so now we're finally, you know, getting, you know, multiple generations of people who are at yale and now you're going to overturn it, right? when we get a piece of the pie, your biggest concern about a future with no affirmative action and no legacy admissions, my concern would be that we would see less outreach, that we'll see less black students, less frankly minoritized students that are feeling empowered to apply to a place like yale and other elite institutions. >> yale is currently reviewing its preference for legacy applicants, but for now, the policy remains in place. harvard says 20.5% of its incoming class will be students, who are the first generation in their family to graduate from a four year college or equivalent. additionally harvard telling abc news that nearly one quarter of the class of 2028 has no financial contribution from their parents, and just over half will receive need based aid, with an average parent contribution of $15,500. >> oh, i got into duke for david. >> he's made peace with the process. he's now a proud member of the class of 2028 at duke university. >> there's that little blue devil over there. >> i'm really excited just to go to someplace new. i felt really at home with the duke people. i was glad i finally got into a school that i would love to go to. >> i'm proud of you. thank you. >> our thanks to selena. up next. bon voyage. saying farewell to a special colleague >> type two diabetes. >> discover the ozempic tri-zone oh oh oh ozempic. >> i got the power of three. >> i lowered my a-1c cv risk and lost some weight. >> in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under seven and maintained it. >> i'm under seven. >> ozempic lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack or death in adults. also, with known heart disease. >> i'm lowering my risk. >> adults lost up to 14 pounds. >> i lost some weight. >> ozempic isn't for people with type one diabetes. don't share needles or pens or reuse needles. don't take ozempic if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome, type two, or if allergic to it, stop ozempic and get medical help right away. if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. gallbladder problems may occur. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking ozempic with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase. low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. living with type two diabetes ask about the power of three with ozempic won a next level clean switch with the whoa of listerine. >> it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean with listerine feel. >> the whoa can support your brain health. mary. >> janet. hey edie. >> no! >> fraser. frank >> frank! >> fred, how are you? 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>> yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. >> reporter: if convicted, hunter biden could face up to 25 years in prison, though expert says he would most likely not serve any time. >> for a first-time offender without any criminal record and without any victims in this case, much more likely we're talking about a probation record ball. conviction is a conviction. it's a serious thing. >> reporter: for years the president's son has been open about his fight with drug addiction. >> have i made mistakes my life and wasted opportunities and privileges i was afforded. for that, i am responsible. >> reporter: for the last several years, hunter has been in the headlines for various scandals, ranging from paternity claims and child support to testifying about his father in a closed door gop impeachment inquiry. >> are you planning to testify publicly as well? >> reporter: in his own trial, the 54-year-old never took the witness stand, but his words were used in court nonetheless. prosecutor leah wise pulling excerpts for his memoir "beautiful things" where he admitted himself he was using drugs. playing snippets like -- >> i wandered into the hotel nightclub and drank some more. mont carly offers for >> this a portrait prosecutors paint odd of a particular period in the life of a self admitted addict. it was gripping but somewhat sad moment to see all of this exposed as publicly as it was. >> reporter: an expert witness for the government testified that the brown leather pouch that contained hunter's gun tested positive for cocaine. the prosecution calling ex-girlfriend hallie biden, once married to hunter's deceased brother beau. she recounted that she found the gun 11 days after it was purchased while cleaning out hunter's truck, along with remnants of crack cocaine and other drug paraphernalia. i panicked. i wanted to get rid of them, fearing he may commit suicide. >> reporter: prosecutors then played this video for the jury, showing hallie at a local supermarket, tossing hunter's gun away. just 20 minutes later, a local man retrieves it while looking for recyclables, bringing it home and later turning it over to police. >> this never becomes a case at all if not for the discarding of the gun. it's easy to imagine this never comes to the attention of prosecutors at all. >> reporter: the day after hunter purchased the gun, he texted hallie that he was waiting for a drug dealer, which he testified meant he was buying crack cocaine. the prosecution called hunter's ex-wife kathleen buehl to the stand. the twoer were married until 2017. she testified she first learned of his crack addiction in 2015 saying i found a crack pipe in a side tray on the porch of our home. they put his former girlfriend and exotic dancer he met at a strip club in new york. she testified she saw hunter smoking crack three weeks before he bought the.38 special revolver and said he would smoke every 20 minutes or so. but on cross-examination, she admitted she lost contact with hunter delays later, and had no idea what hunter was doing at the time he applied to purchase the gun. the defense argued hunter was abusing alcohol at that time, not drugs, and that the form he had to fill out is confusing. so their client did not knowingly lie. the defense argument is basically that no one can know whether hunter biden was at that moment actually addicted to drugs. and that the actual definition of what addiction is something that is somewhat malleable. >> reporter: the defense called family members like hunter's daughter naomi to the stand. she said her dad seemed great. he seemed hopeful when she saw him the week after he bought the gun. but on prosecution, lea wise confronted naomi with text messages she sent to her dad with six days after he bought the gun. "i'm really sorry, dad. i can't take this. i just miss you so much. i want to hang out with you." hunter texted back "i'm sorry i've been so unreachable. it's not fair to you." really extraordinary to have prosecutors trying to use their own daughter against them. a and the fact that prosecutors tried to use so many people with the last name biden to provide testimony against hunter biden just added to the extraordinary nature of this trial. >> reporter: the biden family has faced many tragedies. in 1972 when he was just 2 years old, hunter's mother niella and sister naomi died in a car crash. >> the wife of u.s. senator-elect joseph biden of delaware was killed today in a two-car crash. a young girl also died in the accident. >> reporter: his brother beau and he survived the accident. and in 2015, beau, the former attorney general of delaware tragically died of brain cancer at 46. >> the worst thing that could have ever happened to me happened when beau died. i got up, and i'm standing here, i'm living my life. and i'm doing it in a way that i want to make my kids proud. i want to make my family proud. >> reporter: today, hunter is married to south african filmmaker melissa cohen biden. they wed less than a week after meeting. melissa by his side throughout the entire trial in delaware. hunter biden is also facing a trial set for september on felony charges alleging he failed to pay at least $1.4 million in taxes. >> it certainly isn't good to your son on trial like this. this is ugly. it kind of muddies the water politically. but in terms of what this is about, hunter biden is not running for office. his dad is. and his dad really was not part of the extraordinary family drama that played out in court over the last couple of weeks. >> juju: our thanks to terry. >>> when we return, the cinderella story of the girls who pushed their way into a boys soccer league and turned it upside down. i prep without pills. with apretude, a prescription medicine used to reduce the risk of hiv without daily prep pills. with one shot every other month, just 6 times a year. in studies, apretude was proven superior to a daily prep pill in reducing the risk of hiv. you must be hiv negative, to receive apretude and get tested before each injection. if you think you were exposed to hiv or have flu-like symptoms, tell your doctor right away. apretude does not prevent other sexually transmitted infections. practice safer sex to reduce your risk. don't take apretude if you're allergic to it or taking certain medicines, as they may interact. tell your doctor if you've had liver or kidney problems or mental health concerns. if you have a rash or other allergic reactions, stop apretude and get medical help right away. serious side effects include allergic reactions, liver problems, and depression. some of the most common side effects include injection-site reactions and headache. you must receive apretude as scheduled. ask your doctor about long-acting apretude. and prep without pills. save at apretude.com. not flossing well? then add the whoa! of listerine to your routine. new science shows listerine is 5x more effective than floss at reducing plaque above the gumline. for a cleaner, healthier mouth. ahhhhh. listerine. feel the whoa! 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>> no. ♪ >> reporter: nicknamed the invinc invincibles, this team is giving a whole new meaning to playing like a girl. >> the boys underestimated us because we were girls. so it felt good to prove them wrong. >> reporter: along the southern coast of england in a little town called bournemouth, the queens park ladies are making international headlines. >> celebrate after etching their names in football history, we're very excited to welcome the invincibles. we have the queen park ladies! >> come on, ladies! >> reporter: after joining the under 12 league made up of all boys teams, they went on to not just win the league, they went undefeated. what was it like going undefeated? >> it was like they always were a little cocky. so oh, i'm going to do a couple of step-overs, try like skill you. but when you see us beating them like 5, 6-0, they were crying to their mums and dads. you shouldn't have underestimated us. >> reporter: after their decisive victory, after victory, it will be hard to ever underestimate these girls again. but their cinderella story almost didn't happen. the team's manager tobey green says that at first many thought it was bad idea. do you think it's better for boys and girls to mix and play sports together before puberty? >> we know that once the boys get to the teenaged years, they get bigger, more powerful, faster, stronger, and yes, there can be a gap. i think up until that stage, it's about opportunity, application, and yeah, just getting out there and doing it. >> reporter: we met up at home with tobey and his daughter olivia, who is a captain on the invincibles. what did you think when your dad said here's the plan. you're going play soccer, but you're going play against boys? >> i didn't think much of it, because i've always played against the boys. and i thought we could do it. every single game, we just went in positively, and if we went a goal down, we didn't get our heads down. we kept encouraging each other. >> check out your room. >> reporter: olivia takes us upstairs where she shows us her bag filled with many, many trophies. oh, there is a loft trophies and medals in there. do you feel like people underestimated you and your teammates? >> yeah. >> reporter: yeah? how so? >> well, some of the boys are laughing when they first played us and thought they were going to win by quite a lot. but we won. everybody surprised. and it felt good to show them we can be as good as them. >> yeah. >> reporter: before playing soccer, olivia was shy and barely able to speak. how do you think you've changed in the last six seasons? >> when i first started, i wasn't as confident. but now i'm definitely more confident because of all our relationships with each other, and just playing boosted my confidence. >> reporter: what it is about soccer, about football that boosts your confidence? >> i think just playing because it just makes me feel proud of how far i've come. it makes me more confident. >> reporter: today is game day for the green family. their mom haley tells us watching her daughters get ready to take the field is a modern-daydream. how do you think sports for women have changed from when you work to your daughters now? >> it's such a massive difference. i say to the girls how lucky they are. when i was at school, i would have about five minutes in a boys match, and it would be like five-minute pitch at the end of the game. and that's why my passion now is to encourage more people and help the girls as well in their football. >> reporter: fed and ready, there is just one more thing left for olivia to do. the invincibles are matching off against a team they beat twice before. >> stretch. >> reporter: on the sidelines, it's all busy. >> so let's get out there, and let's try and win. >> yeah. >> reporter: and on the field, it's all action. ♪ right from kickoff, the girls dominate, quickly making the score 2-0. have you learned anything from them? >> yeah, i think they work really well as a team. and their passes are spot-on every single time. >> reporter: do you think the girls seem like a worthy opponent? >> yeah, very good. they're the best in the league, easily. >> reporter: the girls making tight defensive plays, strategically guarding their territory. even as their winning season comes to a close, the girls have gained so much more than just another trophy. >> i think her confidence outside of school, it's helped her massively. >> reporter: what about your girls? >> yeah, they love it. i think it's great for their confidence. they made so many different friendship groups that they wouldn't have had otherwise. they really trust each other. and that. coulds really across in the game. the last two weeks have been unbelievable. >> reporter: and while we were chatting -- >> i made you miss a goal. i made you miss a goal. i'm sorry. >> reporter: another goal. the girls bring home the w, a decisive 3-0. how do you feel after the win? >> amazing! >> invincibles! 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>> one time. >> one time. >> when was that? >> obama. >> what happened? >> nothing. >> reporter: they're saying politics has a luxury they could not afford. >> voting is the last thing on my mind. it's just the last thing on my mind. it just don't make sense of what's going on in real life, and what y'all want me to vote for. y'all want me to vote for what? so mike brown can get shot ten times in his head? that's what i'm voting for? so -- so george floyd can get killed on camera, bro? what am i voting for? >> are you persuadable do you think between now and election day with efforts like the event here in atlanta that you could be persuaded to vote? >> yeah. i just feel like something just got to be -- i just got to be convinced and i don't know what's going to convince me to be honest. >> reporter: both aren't sold on their options this fall. >> you're leaning towards trump? >> yes, i am. i feel like it was more change when trump was in office than biden if we got to compare what's going on. >> so i see you brothers and wearing maga hats? >> no. no. that's what i'm saying. the thing is -- i'll vote, but they're our only options. so it's, like, which is -- it's, like, hey. do you want to burn your hand in the oven or do you want to burn your hand in the toaster? >> reporter: nearly 800 miles north in saginaw, michigan, in transition. once a thriving auto industry, but now. >> just look. buildings are deteriorated. factories and places that used to be very, you know, functional are gone. >> reporter: this is the chief executive of the saginaw community action committee that helps lower income with residents and housing assistance. he caught biden's eye during a visit in may. >> we talked about the economy. we talked about inflation and how -- what it feels like to go to the grocery store, and to pull out $25 and figure out how far that $25 can stretch, and i believe in what president biden is trying to accomplish, and so as we get closer to november, i will be paying close attention to those -- those policies and to what he believes he wants to move this country towards, and i will be standing with him. >> reporter: but not everybody is convinced. 47-year-old antonio brooks has voted in every presidential election since he was 18. this time he might sit it out. >> i'm tired of being forced to choose the lesser of the greater evils. i have the right to stand firm in my own beliefs, and what i believe is they're not good candidates for the people. >> reporter: roy baldwin owns and operates a barbecue restaurant with his wife where he's feeling the pinch of inflation. as he works tirelessly to keep up, he doesn't believe trump or biden can solve the country's economic concerns. >> at this point, i don't think either one can make a big difference in the economy. >> reporter: still, he's determined to vote come november. >> it has a lot to do with -- at least i have a choice. so if you say that i'm not going to vote, trust me. you already voted. your vote do count. we fought for it. we died for it, to have a right, and a voice, and silent is not always a voice. >> jonathan: our thanks to byron. there will be much more of his reporting on a special edition of "nightline" airing this wednesday night on juneteenth. >>> coming up, i'll talk to treasury secretary janet yellen on why president biden's economic message isn't breaking through. the powerhouse round table is up next. we're back in a moment. biden's economic message isn't breaking through. the powerhouse round table is up next. we're back in a moment. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. ♪ are you tired of your hair breaking after waiting years for it to grow? 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>> yeah. i wasn't surprised. it would have been lunacy for the court to say, you can somebody who's been judged by a court to be a threat to a domestic, someone he's domestically abused, can't have a gun denied from them, but the court was in a corner of its own making because they'd said two years ago, you have to find this precise analogue and it just didn't exist in history because of the way we have treated do it's been relatively recent to have treated domestic abuse victims that way. >> justice thomas is the guy who wrote the opinion two years ago and he said, look, this is what we said that and it was this is consistent. so what they really had to do the other rate was back away from the strict kind of straightjacket they had put themselves in two years ago and they all did. >> but in different ways that are going to be very interesting to play out over the next few years. >> i want to talk about donald trump's classified documents, case in florida, because look, this week, judge, aileen cannon, g held really an hours-long hearing on trump's its argument that jack smith's appointment as special counsel is unconstitutional and that he doesn't have the authority to bring the case. now, cannon, as reminder, was appointed by trump but i think some look at this, the slow-walking, i guess is the word to use of this case, the delays in this case as a way to delay the trial. >> and i'm curious just from your perspective, as a former us attorney, how do you see the way that this case? >> has played out so far it's hard not to see it that way. >> it's been slow walking and no walking today. the hearing you just referred to omar as a good case in point. every court has rejected this theory that she gave a whole de two and she is more of those coming. and she not only indulges trump's theories that don't have legal basis. but she then sort of puts things in moth balls and doesn't rule which is really significant. because it would be that, that would give the doj and opportunity to go to the 11th circuit and not just challenge the ruling, but challenged her staying on the case. so it really has been it's a very open and shut case of all the four against them. it's the most and it would have been in the hand it's up another judge, i think already a conviction at trial, so it's been i think a real cost to the country that she's behaved in the way she has presiding over the case. >> and so i guess then the question is, you don't see the way that this case has been run so far, you don't see any changes or foresee any changes in the future leading into the rest of this year. and i yes resolving in any significant way before the election not so wrong with judge cannon remains on the case and she's been careful not to give the doj and opportunity to ouster. >> however, there's a motion before her now involving a gag order, and if she just doesn't rule on it, as has been her want i think the doj could say this is serious and it's emergent and bring it up to the 11th circuit. and there are indications that the circuit would be all to happy to recuse her that her general treatment the case has been a bit of a black god for everyone in that circuit. so i think app center being removed from the case, it couldn't happen and even if she is, we're just about at the time where putting a new judge and getting that judge up to speed is probably too late. for a trial before november. >> as a reminder, this is just one of the multiple cases being levied against the former president and in multiple jurisdictions. but harry litman really appreciate you bringing the perspective on this one thanks for having me omar. of course. >> all right. still had democrats are ramping up efforts to block rfk jr. from appearing on ballots across the nation. how the third party run could impact the election. you're on the cnn newsroom the most anticipated moment of this election. and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president, one stage two very different visions for america's future. the cnn presidential debate thursday net it now live on cnn and streaming on max and a guy kept evolving the former. does hello and gave a cutscene long-duration. >> isn't that a blow vision works? 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>> i just disagree completely. >> juju: do you ever get criticized for being a working mom? >> on social media, there's a lot of criticism of, who is raising your kids right now? >> juju: the trend hit a boiling point after kansas city chiefs kicker harrison butker said this in a commencement speech last month. >> i think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. >> i loved what he had to say about motherhood. i didn't find issue with it at all. >> juju: how does that work in modern society where more than 50% of american women are in the workforce? significantly more than in 1950? >> it's such a simple little toy, but it's really educational. >> juju: ivy says she always wanted to be a mom. when you were in college studying broad call journalism, did you have a dream job? >> i've always wanted to be a mom, to be honest. that doesn't sound like your classic dream job, but i did just want a family. >> juju: now mom to two boys, she juggles snack time and craft time with content creation. what does being a trad wife mean to you this. >> obviously just a traditional wife. i think a lot of people, unfortunately, kind of have &his negative view of the way people used to live. i was really close with my grandma and with both my grandmothers and even my great grandmother, and they were the coolest women. when i hear homemaker, when i hear traditional woman, i think of really amazing women. the trad wife lifestyle is sold as one that is relaxing and beautiful for the people who participate in it and for the husbands and the families who benefit from it. it is a vision of a lifestyle that is not really attainable. >> juju: now adyes it's often a privilege to have a single income sustaining an entire family. government statistics show more than half of all u.s. households, 54%, have two incomes. that's more than double the number from 1955. not to mention more than 80% of all single parents are moms. >> there's an economic impact. and giving up that financial independence is actually putting not just you but your kids' future at risk. >> i have a degree. i have things i could do. win like me have thought about that. we know that things can go wrong. the pros for me outweigh the cons. the reward outweighs the risk. >> juju: yet research shows as women get older, they bear a heavier financial burden, especially after death or divorce. the average age of widowhood is 59 years old. women on average live decades longer. ivy says she and her husband choose this life knowing the financial sacrifices. >> i will make a list at the beginning of the week of what we're having for dinner. the list is based on the ads from the grocery stores around here. it's all electronic. i have all my grocery apps. it takes so much time and so much planning. i feel like i do a good job of pretending like i have new things, but it's all thrift stores. it's all facebook marketplace. this is goodwill. my other dresses are goodwill. >> i do not call myself a trad wife, i call myself a classic wife, a classic mom. >> juju: for abby roth, social media has allowed her to share her conservative views, including strong opinions on the roles of men and women. >> men are definitely in a position to protect and make sure that mom can do what she needs to do so the kids get nurtured. that's the thing that really breaks my heart is the women who would love to stay at home but just feel like they can't. feel like they shouldn't. feel like they have too many other obligations to their potential. >> juju: the orthodox jew and opera singer stepped away from her life on stage and often talks about the expectations women have about career and family. >> a lot of women are told that they're going to find their fulfillment and they're going to fulfill their potential by -- through their careers. and then it's harder and harder to meet men. and then they find themselves alone, and it's hard. if you look at somebody's tombstone, that's what it's going to say. "wonderful daughter, wonderful mother, wonderful wife." it's not going to say, "wonderful ceo." >> juju: abby says she's not against moms who work. she understands single moms and two-income households are a reality. but -- >> women have always had a role economically. it's just -- needs to be put in its proper place. i think for a lot of women, work is not necessary, it's a preference. even though there's this narrative that being at home means you are giving up your career, giving up your dreams. when you have children, children become your dream in a lot of ways. >> juju: but many women think you don't have do choose. dr. karen tang is a board-certified ob-gyn, surgeon, and book author. she's also been married for nearly 20 years and is the proud working mother of three kids. do you ever get cite sized for being a working mom? >> it's not just myself but on the record women fits i know on social media. there's a lot of criticism of, who's raising your kids right now? why did you have kids if you can't raise them? no one would say that to a man. >> juju: you're a bit of a tiktok sensation. >> oh my god. i joke that i'm a geriatric tiktoker. age-wise, i could be the mom of pretty much everyone on tiktok. >> juju: as a parent, specifically a working mom, karen worries that the trad wife trend leaves out the important and often difficult parts of parenthood. >> almost more of an aesthetic. i think a lot of people who see trad wives on social media know it's a little bit of a performance. >> juju: some of the criticism of the trad wife movement is that it pushes women back to not just the ai '50s aesthetic, but a '50s mindset. >> women didn't have rights. you couldn't have a credit card or bank account. i think romanticizing this idea of going back to time but not remembering the realities is dangerous. >> juju: what do you make of the fact that when you start engaging with the trad wives hashtag, you start getting things like misinformation and conspiracy theories on your page? >> exactly. it's no longer just that this is a wonderful way to choose to live your life. it's become associated with misinformation. >> juju: being so busy means dr. tang and her husband share the household duties. how untraditional are the gender roles in your family? >> i don't know, i definitely have had people tell me that i'm a full-time dad. which i think is kind of a funny way to put it. yeah, i take on a lot of things that i think people might assume are a woman's role sometimes. >> juju: for example? >> i do almost all the grocery shopping. a good deal of the cooking. we get a lot of help from karen's parents. dads are missing out if they're not having these experiences. i think we should re-examine what it means to be a man. >> juju: what would you say to somebody who went on your wife's page and said, you're not a good mom? >> i would invite them to come and see how hard she works and how much she does. >> juju: karen says the trad wives trend should not be mommy wars part 2. >> women should have that freedom to choose. the problem is those that say you shouldn't have a choice that all women should do this, this is the ideal situation for everyone. >> juju: do you consider yourself a good mom? >> oh my god, that's a great question. and i think my initial response i think says so much. because my honest initial response was like, i'm okay. but i think if you ask my kids, i think they would say i'm a really good mom. when it comes to feeling like my kids -- that they feel supported that they're happy, they're healthy, you know -- i revise my answer. i say, i think i'm a really great mom. >> juju: that message of choice and tolerance is one ivy agrees with. what would you say to women who wee say to you, i love my job, i love my career, i don't love my kids any less than you do? 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"third rock from the sun." that was the first thing i remember seeing you in. "10 things i hate about you." "inception." 500 days of summer." the list goes on and on. >> we've had some disagreements, but i hardly think i'm sid vicious. >> no, i'm sid. >> so i'm nancy? >> reporter: you have such an impressive film grief. when you think back to the evolution of your career, how do you feel? how would you describe it? >> entirely dissatisfied. what have i been doing all this time with my life? no, i'm just grateful. i can't believe i get to do this. i love telling story. i love making movies. it's not something everybody gets to do. >> reporter: we've enjoyed watching you all these years. "beverly hills cop: axle f." this is the newest in the franchise 40 years after this came out. you're joining this iconic franchise. how does it feel stepping into that real? >> i remember not exactly when the first one came out -- >> reporter: you were a baby. >> i do remember the first one. my older brother was a big eddie murphy fan. eddie murphy movies, his stand-up comedy, his stuff on "saturday night live," all of that was, oh, this is the cool stuff my older brother likes. and so when i got the chance to play the new sidekick for eddie murphy in "beverly hills cop," this is sort of a lifelong dream come true. >> reporter: we have a clip of the movie that we want to share. >> what? >> you look nervous. >> i am nervous. >> why are you so damn nervous? >> i crashed a [ bleep ] helicopter, okay? it got in my head, that's why i left lapd. >> what? wait -- set it down! >> reporter: how was it to film that? >> oh, man, so fun. first of all, getting to sit with eddie and improvise this, because a lot of that scene -- there's a script, but we're sort of riffing. it was as thrilling as really being in the helicopter, in a certain way. >> reporter: what's it like to improvise with eddie murphy? >> as big and broad and hilarious he is, i think a lot of why people love him so much, there's something real about him. even in his most bombastic characters, there's a seed of true humanity in every moment. and so when i was improvising with him, i wouldn't be reaching for the gags or the laughs. i would always try to send back to him reality. and he really liked that. i think that's why we worked well together. >> reporter: you mentioned your older brother. i know he passed away are he was a huge eddie murphy fan, and you had a chance to share that with eddie. >> yeah, for sure. >> reporter: how did that feel? >> it's sort of surreal, to b honest. this is the thing where you -- if you lose a loved one -- i'm not necessarily a religious person, but i very much feel connected to those who are no longer with us by the impact that they've made. every time i get to tell a story about my brother, or certainly getting to do this, i definitely feel really strongly connected with him. for me, that is really what a soul is. >> reporter: you said you don't love the fame part? 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[ crickets ] the t 20 world cup organized by the international cricket council is a look to change that. >> for me, it's just give it a chance, you know what i mean? you're going love it. >> reporter: being from jamaica, what does it mean to see cricket celebrated in north america? >> i'm happy to be ambassador now that i'm actually a part of helping to promote. i'm definitely excited. >> reporter: but the mega million question, does cricket have staying power in the u.s.? first, it has to land with americans. >> i think they know it as a sport that they don't know. and adults really don't like learning. >> reporter: jimmy o'brien, founder of john boy media made a name for himself online as a baseball content creator. but this the past few years, he has added cricket to his coverage, going viral for his digestible breakdowns of the sport. >> the guy is going the pitch it. he hits it. and how many times can each runner run back and forth. every time they run to the other side, that's a run. >> t-20 cricket is one inning each. one team bats, and then the next team bats. and whichever team score morse runs, wins. if they get out, all their batsmen get out, it's over, or at the end of 120 balls it's over. and that's all you need to know. >> reporter: hoping to attract curious eyes from his american audience, the icc hired him as an official commentator for tournament. >> when they came to ask me to be part of the broadcast, it was to talk how i talk and, you know, relate it to a new audience in different ways. >> reporter: understanding the rules is one thing. having the world cup pitched on new york soil is another. so this is the stadium? >> this is it. >> it's finally coming together. >> in three short months but we're nearly there. >> reporter: brett jones, the ceo of the 2020 world cup oversaw the rapid construction of the $30 million stadium. you see baseball fields everywhere. how is it different bringing in a cricket pitch to the u.s.? >> in cricket, the ball hits the ground before it gets to the batter. the turf pitch they play on is really important. >> reporter: just as quickly as it went up, it will all come down. it looks unbelievable in all its glory. but this is not permanent? >>, no it's not. we'd love for it to be, and i think it's a great model for what could be here for cricket in the future. but yeah, this is a temporary stadium. >> reporter: but he is hoping the rookie usa team, who only qualified because they're co-hosts can endure. you think team usa can make a splash? >> i think that's the gunshot of t-20. we've seen upsets in all the last world cups, and they might be the team to do it. >> reporter: and that lay they did. >> has overcome the 2022 finalists. >> reporter: with a shock upset that american sports fans simply couldn't ignore. a shocking and historic win over pakistan. >> reporter: bowling over long-time powerhouse pakistan. >> they say it's one of the biggest upsets in international cricket. >> reporter: still, nothing could overshadow india versus pakistan. the consensus among fans, they're root fogger more cricket in the u.s. could you ever have imagined that cricket would have come to the united states and you'd be here in new york watching india versus pakistan in the grandstands? 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frank. there we go. i just sent me that when we've got it. there you go. frank. frank. good. we had a little technical problem there. frank. let me start just asking you, what was your reaction to what happened last night? very much along the lines of what you were just talking about. i was sitting there watching this very closely taking notes. i've covered many of these debates, and my 1st thought that this was not going to go well, was actually watching joe by walk out on the stage. he looks difficult, very slow. and then when he opened his mouth, his voice was raspy. and then as we spoke, he was at times as we've discussed incoherent um, the word has been used here as has been used elsewhere. disaster. it isn't on medic mitigated disaster. not only with the optics tariff, one was the performance terrible. but the actual substance of what bite and was saying and how he was responding to the things that protects the and the attacks of that the trump was making. they were weak. they were sort of generic. and in many cases they didn't come at all times. it was even invited by t

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>> well, you talk about it as a story. this is just the first step of the story that has been percolating since donald trump entered the political sphere. he has been here, you know, since he came down the escalator, he has been taking a wrecking ball to the rule of law and constitution. as you pointed out earlier in the program, he has been impeached a couple times. we have seen not only the conviction, but a couple federal indictments and the indictment down in georgia. and this has been going on for quite a while. we are seeing the denigration of 250 years of self-rule, democracy, the rule of law has been eroded. it has been continually eroded. what this conviction represents is the first big step towards regaining our footing. make no mistake, this is just the beginning. now we have a federal election coming up on november 5th. and that will be -- we have 12 jurors determining his innocence or guilt. they determined he was guilty. now he will be facing the jury of america, the american jury. as we know, as you know, it is not, you know, it is not a popular contest, a popularity vote, it doesn't work that way in america. we are going to have 10 million more votes. biden will get 10 million more votes. but the people of michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania will determine whether our democracy survives. so, that's the story. it's the story about -- >> let me ask you about the sweep. we lawyers, we talk about one felony count is a big difference from zero. 5 to 1 is not a big difference. if you want to get to sentencing, they are usually served concurrently. if you have a second, different felony like battery, that would be different. so, legally, i have to remind people it doesn't make a difference. i wonder for you, the story and the clarity, if this were split, you know, 15 and 15, 20 and 10, is the fact it is a clean sweep matter in how it is absorbed around the country? >> i do think it matters. it's never going to matter to trumps faithful. we saw that represented by the elected officials that just basically came out and trumpeted everything donald trump was saying. but it will matter to people who are living in the world of reality, and who respect the world of law, and who respect our constitution and 250 years of self-rule. those people, i refused to believe the majority of people in seven swing states, particularly michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania are going to go into the voting booth and say, you know what, i'm going to vote for a convicted felon. i don't think they will do that. and i think when they are faced with that, the right result will occur. joe biden will win. he will win the popular vote by over 10 million votes. he will win the electoral college and we will preserve democracy. i think this is the first big step towards that. >> this provides a foundation that is different from other endless debates. a lot of people live. lying can be effective. it can work. it over time, it tends to fade. i can argue that in a lot of different settings. here is someone who apparently lied, speaker mike johnson in 2015 said what he meant, what he felt. trump lacks the character and moral center needed in the white house. now he says the opposite, he made a pilgrimage down to the courthouse which was tense and hypocritical of him because he is the one who warned the lack of moral center, the type of thing you could be prosecuted for is this, and here it is happening. >> you have marco rubio. he has done a 180. you got ted cruz, he's done a 180, mitch mcconnell, you know, the list goes on and on and on of people who have said this man is a danger to democracy. he should not be present. he is unfit. you know? he is a psychopath, sociopath, he is a congenital liar. he is a malignant narcissist, whatever you want to say about him, all these things have been said about him, then they do the reverse because they care about their political skills more than anything else, and they are all -- either way, he is taking a wrecking ball to his party. and that party will suffer. but we must not let him take a wrecking ball to our constitution and our democracy. >> rob reiner, you had to wait your turn from bob woodward, that i don't think it is -- what do they call it? >> heading clean up? >> you can tell it's been a long time. >> you know your wrap references, but you're not so good with his ball. >> i admit it humbly and with baseball failure. also legal reporting fatigue if i'm being honest, rob. >> i don't blame you. >> thank you, rob. appreciate you. we will be right back. ht back. ♪ trains that use the power of dell ai and intel. ♪ to see hundreds of miles of tracks. ♪ [vroom] [train horn] [buzz] clearing the way, [whoosh] so you arrive exactly where you belong. slowing my cancer from growing and living longer are two things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. and with kisqali, i can have both. kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from growing and has been proven to help people live significantly longer across three separate clinical trials. so, i have the confidence to live my life. kisqali can cause lung problems or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. avoid grapefruit during treatment. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness, yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine, tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills, or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding. long live life and long live you. ask your doctor about kisqali today. 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knowingly and repeatedly failed to do so even after trump instigated the january 6 attack on the capital in his indefensible effort to remain in power after losing the 2020 election to joe biden. joining our discussion now is ira shapiro who served over a decade and senior staff positions in the u.s. senate and served in the clinton administration. ira, thank you very much for joining us tonight. we meet in this subject on sadness because we are always -- it might not be apparent to others, but morning what the senate used to be. the senate that we lost, where we could easily respect the positions of republicans who were opposed to our views and legislative engagement on the senate floor. senate floor. compromised solutions. sometimes not. never think we were up against a force was trying to harm the country in any way. >> thank you for having me. of course you and i go back in the senate and we look at the senate and the long decline of it with sadness. on the other hand, i was interested in updating the book to find that in 2022, for instance, the senate actually came up with quite a few bipartisan accomplishments. president biden and senate leader schumer, unified the democrats, for the most part. they were able to find a dozen or 15 republicans for the first gun safety legislation in a long time. the chips and science act. marriage equality act. they wanted to make up for their catastrophic failure, failure and -- the senate with democratic leadership and control canonically -- makes this election cycle critically important to keep the senate majority. which is now hanging by a thread. >> that is what is at stake. in all of these elections. you may not think your particular state matters much to you, control of the senate, t to be the chairman and who will run the committees, who will be in control of the way it works, which party, that is night and day. >> it was not always that way. we had shifts in the senate. go back to 1980 or 1986, control shifted 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>> yes. we want to tell the story about the jr.'s and the degradation and the violence of slavery. but we also want to tell the other story about the resilience of enslaved people, about the courage, the strength perseverance there you are just jumped out at there it is. yes, it is. >> i'm about the seed that name with the 120 32,000 yeah. >> it is both humbling but also gives my family place. yes. that's right. >> 40% of the people who went to slave claim names that were associated with enslavers, not two honor the enslaver, but they were just trying to create kinship and community with brothers and sisters and parents that want to give up on that. so they adopted those names. >> we've been sold off putting exactly the blackwell line came in to the virginia colonies and 60 in 36 joseph blackwell up in to north number month. dr. murphy and other genealogists traced three blackwell family lines coming into the colonies. but murphy was only able to connect my line to the start of the 19th century there's a mishnaic blackwell and amishi junior blackwell. and the first one was born about 18:10. >> my great, great, great, great grandfather, just because of the area virginia, nine times out of ten but have been enslaved. >> i've never really heard much about the blackboard so to hear this, and they get information on this is 60 value there are so many more questions to be answered, but the more we look, the more we learn, the more we appreciate our ancestors. >> and their will to persevere. >> i think to know you are the heir of people who found a way to survive who found a way to overcome all of the hardship is something that, that should generate pride yeah, this journey to find out more about my ancestors has fueled curiosity throughout my family. >> look at this. these are pictures of the copy of the lawsuit that sara filed in the late 18th century that's the one in my home. that's the one in my mother's home. the others are in cousins homes. it's not only a marker to show our gratitude to sara and filing that lawsuit against her enslaver. but it's also an acknowledgement and remembrance of those who suffered through and survived slavery so you probably learned in school about the 40 acres and a mule promise to freed men and women after the civil war but did anyone actually get their acres? 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(roommate) i did. >>> thousands of people donating right now to donald trump bhof never once ever donated to our campaign, period, ever. that speaks volumes about how the american people are interpreting this. november is coming, and our verdict will officially be rendered on november the 5th. >> george: that was lara trump right after the verdict. we're joined by wes moore. governor, thank you for joining us this morning. let's start with your response to lara trump. are you concerned this verdict will help the former president? >> no. i think the american people have just gotten a bird's-eye view on how over these past months how these two individuals deal with trials. you know, you look at president biden and the trials that he has had to deal with, things like deadly storms in the midwest, trials like addressing the fact that this criminalization of cannabis has been used as a cajole against so many communities, particularly communities of color for so many years, a bridge collapse in baltimore, a deadly bridge collapse where we have been able to get the federal channel reopened faster than anyone thought imaginable, and on the other side, you see donald trump who's been dealing with trials as well, except those trials have been his own. those trials have been criminal convictions and i think you're seeing a very clear example of what it means to have a president who is focusing on our future, on our freedoms, and on the other side, you see donald trump who's frankly spending this time on his own future freedoms. >> george: your former governor and predecessor, larry hogan drew an immediate response from the trump campaign. chris lacivita saying, you just ended your campaign. what do you make of that exchange? what will it mean for the senate campaign? he's now running for senate in the state of maryland. >> well, i think the old governor is learning that this is going to be a challenging race for him because as james baldwin said, you know, i can't believe what you say because i see what you do, and whether it's on the issues of reproductive health where he's now taken multiple positions in masking the fact that he has not been a champion of reproductive health or choice in our state, whether it's a position of violence where during his position as governor, homicide rates exploded. 300-plus homicides since our administration has come on board, we have been able to work together to cut the homicide rate in baltimore by half, and during his time as governor, he did not have a single solution for the rise in bloodshed that we are seeing in baltimore and other places around the state, and i think the old governor is learning very quickly that it's difficult to run a race when -- when it was mitch mcconnell that brought in to be able to run this race, and as people are focusing on freedoms of reproductive health freedom, freedom to be able to learn and have your history respected, to be able to walk safely in your neighborhoods, that this is going to be a very challenging environment for him and frankly a very challenging campaign against -- running against someone who i supported early and proudly supported early, the executive angela. >> george: there is a debate going on in circles about how to take on the fact that he is a convicted felon. where do you stand on that? >> well, i think that, you know, and i hear the argument that people are saying now that him being a convicted felon is actually going to help him, and particularly how that's going to help him in communities of color and african american communities, and i can tell you not just as the -- not only the third african american ever elected governor in the history of this country and the first elected in the history of my state, this is a very -- it's a deeply problematic and a deeply offensive argument. what is going to resonate with the african american community and what's going to resonate with the community as a whole is having a person, having a president like we have in president biden who's focusing on our futures. the fact that president trump is now a convicted felon does not make him resonate with any community. it does not make him more connectible to anybody else. >> george: how do you explain why president biden is falling so far short with african american voters this time around and what can he do about it? >> well, i think we also need to be careful on putting too much weight in the polls that are six months out. if you looked at polls in my race when i was six months out, you know, i was polling in the margin of error of zero, and we ended up winning with more votes than anyone who's ever run for governor in the history of the state of maryland. the way you're going to win races is you've got to be able to go in communities and see things on the ground. we knew we were going to win this race even when the polls weren't showing it because i could tell the energy that we were seeing on the ground, and just last week, you know, i was in pennsylvania with the president. before that, we were in georgia campaigning on behalf of the president. north carolina next week and you're seeing surrogates from around the country who are now campaigning on behalf of the president and the things we're seeing are pretty universal, that the energy is there, that people are seeing that we have a president who has done things like making cannabis, moving it from schedule 1 to schedule 3, being able to address this long-term battle that we have had with cannabis particularly in communities of color, that we now have the highest rate of new start black-owned businesses started that we've seen in 30 years, that the black unemployment rate is the lowest that it's ever been in recorded history. we have a president who's addressing the systemic challenges that oftentimes have held back communities of color, and i think that is going to resonate. i think it is resonating, and i think you just have to get in the community and on the streets and by that time, you'll see in november neem will rally because his message will resonate. >> george: governor, thanks for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> george: up next, white house national security spokesman john kirby with the latest on gaza and ukraine. we'll be right back. 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looking at hundreds of records falling more than two hundred and 50 records could fall, both daytime highs and overnight lows. and it looks like we'll find even more records on the overnight as we really just get no relief even at night temperatures on sunday will swelter middle and upper 90s, 97 degrees in little rock, triple digits possible in oklahoma city, 99 in dallas, 98 atlanta 96 in raleigh temperatures middle and upper 90s going up the i95 corridor, 98 degrees to forecast for washington, dc. >> it looks like we'll get near 100 again on sunday, replaces like philly, dc and richmond, virginia, a lot of these places have not seen 100 degree temperatures in years there has to take a look at the next couple of days after that notice by monday and tuesday, temperatures do start to come down a little bit. >> some middle and upper 80s. we'll find a cold front come through that we'll briefly, bring some relief. notice, though, some low 90s already sneaking in there by tuesday. so the heat risk will be major again from new york to dc down the i95 corridor to the carolinas on sunday. then as we go into the work week, that heat dome will continue to linger and build will find extreme impacts across a lot of the south the death toll mounts from the scorching heat this year's hajj pilgrimage witnesses are describing what they say was poor infrastructure and organization at the event they tell cnn there wasn't enough water shade or medical support to protect them as temperatures climb past 125 degrees fahrenheit they also say worshippers lost consciousness and fell ill. >> cnn has reached out to saudi authorities regarding the reportedly inadequate response and has yet to hear back the daughter of two americans who died while on the pilgrimage, say, both of her parents likely succumbed to the brutal heat here she is someone from the us embassy did advise that natural causes could have been due to a heat stroke which based on the temperature people were saying it was over 110 degrees. >> there are millions of people they have to walk long hours. so it was more than likely a heat stroke for both of my parents more than 500 people had been confirmed dead while their fears the death toll is well above 1,000 and joining me now is our ali writer and photographer who went on the hajj pilgrimage with his 70-year-old father this year thank you so much for joining us here. so first, just your reactions on the tragedy that happened? i mean, it was a lifetime dream for so many people. they saved up their whole lives for the opportunity and far too many ended in tragedy. you were there share with us your experience of what that was like? >> i'm certainly thank you for having me. i think it's absolutely is a tragedy. it's something that i plan for my entire lifetime with my father and to see so many people unwell to see so many people unconscious. it was shocking and absolutely impacts your spiritual journey and i think what at the time was difficult towards its people were just resting, passed out or already dead. and now that i've come back from my for my trip, and i'm reading the news and i'm hearing exactly what's happened. >> it's definitely taking a toll on my my mental state to see something i should have been a very special journey for me. >> so many have turned into a a grieving process. so it's been very difficult. >> yeah, i'm so sorry to hear that. i can't imagine what that would be like. i mean, you say you actually saw people who are either passed out or dead. does you're walking why is that right yeah. >> it's there wasn't there wasn't enough places to rest to find shade. and so you see people who are sleeping on under light, light lamps where there's a bit of shade or under a tree or, or even a trucks and you just cannot tell. and i was speaking to one of my friends today who's who told me that is his cousin passed away and he laid dead for several hours before he was picked up by the ambulances so it's not easy to tell when someone in that heat is sleeping, resting, or actually has passed out or just died. and to see that drone is it's a very distressing visual especially when there's so many people yeah. >> i mean, you spoke with ambulances there. one of the problems seems to be that there weren't enough madix to help all the people who needed medical attention. is that what you saw as well? >> yeah absolutely. i think before i went, i had this idea that this is a very organized pilgrimage. of course it happens every year, so the organizers, which would have anticipated the heat, would have anticipated the numbers and there would have been sufficient water and metrics on site i did see metrics in several places, but what i was shocked by was unengaged. the medics were. and so when i would see people passed out, i would see the medics and i would just say absolutely nobody stepping in to help. it was almost given that there are so many people we cannot help everybody. so we will not help anybody. and so i'm sure they did help many people. but in my experience, i isometrics away from the scenes and sitting in the ambulances and people taking care of themselves. one touching thing that i noticed was that a lot of people were helping each other so the pilgrims with water, with anything anyway, so cooling each other, we're finding each other are giving food or sugar. what, depending on what the person needed. and so it really came down to is taking care of each other, which is which is part of the spiritual journey itself. but we expected medical support and we didn't get that. >> i mean, you yourself completed the hajj despite the heat your father as well, but i mean, i guess we all experienced the heat very differently. the i mean, just just what did it feel like for you that oppressive he's it's very difficult to tell. we don't get that kind of hit in europe and it's a dry heat, so it's very difficult gauge exactly how hot it is so you don't actually end up feeling very thirsty. you think you're fine and i think that's what well the, his stroke hits you you don't drink enough water on earth, hydro lights, and you feel dizzy and confused i mean, i'm healthy young fit and there are moments where it feared for my life. and i can't imagine what it must have been like for my father or hizon, a wheelchair and so my main motive was to protect him at all cost and so that itself was very, very difficult and of course, iso, people who are aged elderly, who had nobody to push them on a wheelchair and they were walking and so i think without having that someone to take care of you, it's a very, very dangerous pilgrimage because i've learned and it's something that i'm telling people now that if you do do decide to go is something that we should have been warned about, prepared for and we didn't get that support are warning from anybody before we went. >> well, let's talk about the future. i mean, the problem on the so-called illegal to operators. i mean, many of those who died were unregistered pilgrims rahm's, which meant they weren't able to access things like cooling facilities, air conditioned, tents, and so on. obviously this is something they need to crack down on the situation year-on-year is just likely to get worse. i know a saudi study found that temperatures have gone up in saudi arabia and mecca specifically, even faster than other, places in the northern hemisphere. so with all of that, what more do you think authorities could have done and should do in the future to try and stop this from happening again. >> yeah. i think i think on the unregistered pilgrims, i think it's an unfair criticism. i think if you look at the history of the hajj pilgrimage, it has never been the way it is run today. you always have people who can, who are not registered. and this is a new front. this is a new concept of being registered itself. so people are always going to come. you cannot neglect pilgrims because if not ready stood that didn't come to the virtual channels because of course, i know people who came through the official channels. they still don't get the support they needed dating at food, water, shelter when they needed it i'm a registered pilgrim. when i went i didn't have accommodation for myself in some places. and so i consider sleeping outside. so this is not a question of unregistered versus registered. i think problem is insufficient care for anybody and everybody. and so as things get hotter and pilgrims continue to grow numbers, which is what i think the organisms want. they want to increase from pogroms. >> you have to take care of pilgrims regardless of their status. >> and when you're outside on the streets, it's in shambles. there's absolutely no cooling systems and stalled. they have some but it does not provide enough cooling. and instead, what i saw were volunteers using host pipes to cool pilgrims walking and that's and that's fine for small straight party, but you cannot expect that for the pilgrimage, which has 2 million plus pilgrims every single year so they have the means, they know what the issues are and they need to invest in it as simple as that just one thing a like to give them credit a couple of years ago, we had issues with crowding and stampede and people died. they've taken care of that. so it shows there have they have the means. they don't want to use they know how to fix them. so i'm hoping in the future now they've seen what the heat looks like, what it does to people. they address this and we don't see a repeat of this in the future. >> wilson, you make some great points there really appreciate you sharing your very painful experiences we wish you the best writer and photographer at zero ali in london. thank you so much. >> thank you for having all right. >> when we come back, cnn's presidential debate is fast-approaching. >> i'll joe biden clams with briefing books and practice sessions. donald trump makes waves on the campaign trail that is next, stay with us i'm 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neither candidate is addressing one major issue, right now, the us national debt stands at a little under 35 trillion. >> that comes out to more than $103,000 every man, woman, and child in the country. meanwhile, it's becoming tougher and tougher for americans to carry on with their spending spree, years of elevated inflation and the highest interest rates in almost a quarter century are wearing out the us consumer. earlier i spoke with ryan patel's senior fellow at drucker school of management at claremont graduate university. i asked him how worried should americans b. about the national debt? >> yes i've got to address the first thing about how to handle the dead, right? >> it's the national debt requires a bipartisan cooperation. so that's kinda why the consumers don't really see it. because we've seen both parties having come together. you mentioned both biden and trump not really addressing it because they really can't do it alone. i think when it comes to the average american you know, if the debt continues to increase and the us doesn't keep up with it, right? the whole point is that you make money, you spend money, you spend money to make investments. but if it slows down and there's a gap and it puts economic pressures that are not being addressed. and it leads to economic downturns. the consumer spending would reduce. and we lead to these kind of cycles where it is decreasing business revenue and illustrates are not helping. and so it does play the fact if if the gdp of the us can't keep up with that, and i think that's where the focus probably on the conversation came is how to boost the economy where you can still have that type of debt. >> yeah, you mentioned, i mean, it's a bipartisan issue, but neither party talking about it. i mean, it seems so long ago. now that we'd see heated debates over the debt. i mean, you had those republican, especially debt hawks really fighting over the issue. it doesn't, it doesn't seem to be anything that either party is really talking about. do you think it will come up during the presidential debate? >> i don't think i'll come up with a presidential debate, but you know, what it will come up. >> can you and i talked about it every time we get to the budget deadline, every time there's a deadline, we start talking about it because both parties tried to do it. >> right. there was the last one was statuary capital, how much they can borrow. so there's a limit. congress passed. then you think of most of 2017, trump's tax cut will expire around 2025 so what does that mean? the conversations has to come. >> do i hope that this conversation comes into bit kim. i absolutely do. but it's a lot more multifaceted to both of them to talk about it because it really needs both parties to come together because they both as congress need to either increase the cap and you and i know that the government shuts down and they don't really get to that cap because there was no money unlikely that people are able to come together. >> it's so hard in washington as we've seen so speaking of debt americans themselves usually carry a huge amount of debt, but it seems as though they might be set to curb their spending the summer. why is that yeah, i think we've seen the numbers when you think of the cpi index, the big purchases are still, they were there six months ago, but they're starting to slow down. >> i also think that shelter and housing and the rise of cost is rising. so people are choosing what they have. there has been a drop in savings as well. so when you put all that together, people start to realize version. they put their money, although there's some other instances where travels still up. so people are still spending money, but they're using their money in different aspects and that hurts the big purchases. the us of consumer spending due thursday for the gv comes from it hurts that degree. so i think people are starting to feel that and also interest rates are high. kim. so if you're carrying a credit card debt, it adds up really, really quickly. so people choose for not wanting to take out more deaths when the interest rate is this high, so is that a good thing? >> do you think that cutting personal debts and cutting overspending or should we sort of see it as a cloud on on the economic horizon well, there's two questions there. >> as a personal, as a personal, you obviously want to have more income and have less debt. but the second part that question was, i think you're asking me, is that does make an impact on businesses because businesses are waiting on assign, do they use the cash they invested? they hire two, they grow this all plays in effect if there's not that stability of where the money should be going. and that kim is the kind of crystal ball why the fed is so important of saying what was ongoing. one fed increase this here, so that keeps me interested is going to be still higher. and what does that growth look like? then come next year, does it grow faster or is it still? slowly and steady? and that does make an impact when it comes to the markets, the people and you and me yeah. all right. so listen, you talked about the crystal ball big picture. what kind of economy are we looking at then as we sort of round the corner to the elections, i mean, polls show that economy is the number one issue for voters. and to some extent, how the economy is doing may decide the presidency why think that number is will the factual behind it that the economy will be growing. >> but kim, there's a second piece of this. how are people feeling when they vote, right? they see prices raising. those kind of things, even though the economy could it be doing well. but because certain certain ecosystems don't, can't feel it, what do you have you done for me lately? that will be the big question coming into november, unfortunately. so regardless of what you've done last couple of years, it's going to be how are you feeling at that moment and we're starting 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this offering more options for smokers who are trying to get off cigarettes could be extremely beneficial. is there research to back that up? >> so the way the fda makes these decisions is based on applications that are submitted by the manufacturer. now you and i don't have access to all of that information. but they say that they are following the science. they're looking at the games, and they are going to scientific review. and they feel convinced that the net effect will be benefit. they do acknowledge that they may be young adults who may be more likely to use menthol flavored products. so they say they're aware of the risks, but they say in total, this approval will be beneficial so that's, that's a stand on this issue. >> i'm wondering if you're convinced. i mean, many experts argue no nicotine products are good, that the government's just basically adding something else that's harmful, which, you know well from your research, right? you compiled a database of harm that's been done by e-cigarettes? >> yes so you know, i think to understand this question, we have to look at both sides of the debate, right? >> so the, the provo, the people who support making electronic cigarettes available to the general public, say, look, 500,000 people in the us die every year prematurely from conventional cigarettes, we need to do something about it. so the idea is that we provide these individuals with this quote, unquote safer cigarette, which is the electronic cigarette, we win them away from combustion cigarettes or traditional cigarettes, and thereby, we reduce mortality from tobacco, right and in order to do this, you need to to make these products widely available. so that's one 11 side of the lobby, the other side of the lobby says, well, if you make these products widely available, kids who were in high school, you know, there's a webshop, there's the societal pressure nicotine is very addictive. >> we're just going to propagate nicotine addiction. >> and these individuals will vape four for decades. and we have no idea what's going to happen to the lungs. so those are the two sides of the aisle like you had summarized very nicely earlier approving tobacco flavored products has been quite palatable because traditional cigarettes or comeback of flavored, right? and tobacco flavor does not appeal to youth, mentor is slightly different so that's why the controversies occurring so what does happen to the lungs then? >> we were aware of all the pictures and so on. we're all shown in school a lung that if you're a smoker. but what about vaping? yes. >> so that data on vaping is more limited because it's a newer device. but i think most experts agree that there is conclusive evidence that compared to not vaping vaping is harmful. okay. particularly in terms of asthma symptoms, also in terms of susceptibility of the lungs infection like pneumonia so i think everybody will agree are 90% of people will agree that it is conclusive that vaping is harmful 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cnn has not obtained the full of audio you know what i want, i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the price the flag for the next month exactly. i made a flag in my head. this is how i satisfy myself. i made a flag is white and it's yellow and orange flames around it and in the middle is the word but goniometer that gunja in italian means shane gone yet vii car g, g they're gone shame, shame, shame anyway wow, shame, shame, shame on you spelling it out like that. >> such vehemence about the gay pride flag. >> those comments were secretly recorded by a liberal activist, journalists lauren windsor, who misrepresented herself to me this is alito as a sympathetic and like-minded admire her, but she recorded these conversations and we now know what was set out in front. >> now, emily baden, a former neighbor of the alitos in northern virginia. she's the person justice alito says provoked his wife and to flying the inverted american flag after a verbal dispute between the two a claim emily says is false and is backed up by police reports, which showed that the dispute actually happened weeks after the flag went up. so emily, i'm glad to see you again what's your reaction now you hear this audio, you hear martha and alito a voice, you know, because you had conversations with her and she's saying she's going to fly these flags spelling this out, that she's going to fly a flag very gunja, and she spells it out. every letter to say shame that she wants to fly a flag against the gay pride flag. >> yes an erin excuse me. >> thank you so much for having me again, it's great to be with you again my first reaction to hearing this audio i think was the same as most other folks, which was absolute horror if there's one thing that is the basic job description of a supreme court justice. it is to remain impartial and with the upside-down flag, with the appeal to heaven flag samuel alito has shown that he is not impartial and yeah, hearing martha and talk about that, it's interesting because i was used as a scapegoat for why she flew the other flag and we know clearly that that's not true and she says you, you obviously interacted with her and in very negative circumstances at one point, which i'll ask about in a moment, but she when you hear her tone of voice here, that she's going to fly this flag against the gay pride flag that says virgo anya in italian means shame. >> and she says it and then she spells it out. she hits every single letter virgo kn. yes. she says again and then she says, shame, shame on you did that tone sound like the same woman, the same tone that you'd heard yes it was defiance. >> it was just very, very clear that she wishes shame upon the lgbtq community and yeah, i definitely recognized the tone for sure. >> so that secretly recorded conversation went on for about six minutes. at one point, mrs. alito said her husband asked her to stop flying flags and she said she would do it temporarily. i want and to play that part of the exchange for you, emily, here it is nazis believed that he should control the hell. do you never can tell and he's like please don't put up a flag. >> i can i won't do it because i'm deferring to you but when you are free of this nonsense i'm putting it up and i'm going to send them a message every day, maybe every week the change in the flag's, there'll be all kinds i mean, look, she you talked about how she glare at you, called you a fascist. she spat on your car. i know that you have said you regretted calling her, that that vulgar epithet but when you hear this audio, is this this is consistent with the woman that you interacted with it is. >> and i think it's only fair for me to point out that mr. and mrs. alito are essentially strangers to me and my my interactions with them are very limited. so i can't really make any type of comment on you know, they're their attitude or their mental state or just aside from the facts of what i witnessed and what i experienced, and i just want to bring that back to the facts of this whole situation that he showed allegiance to january 6, he showed allegiance to christian nationalism and it's just very dangerous for our democracy. and i think he opinion value are secular. >> he wrote, it, wrote an opinion actually, after a year after the upside flag was flown and it was actually about flags flying outside boston city hall i just wanted to read the operative leinz. again, this is after he himself had known these flags were flying at his homes. and he says, a passerby on cambridge street confronted with a flag, flag flanked by government flags standing just outside the entrance of boston seat of government would likely conclude that all of those flags convey some message on the government's behalf. >> so it's clear he's saying if they fly the flag than any reasonable person would think that you support what that flag stands for. >> and yet he's saying it's not the case when they fly at his own home is there any doubt in you did interact with him and i know he didn't really speak. you didn't say much in those interactions but is there any doubt in your mind that a supreme court justice sees the hypocrisy here so he must see the hypocrisy and maybe just doesn't care it seems to me that their behavior and these words maybe they feel like they're above the law. >> and a lot of ways they are. we don't have an enforceable code of ethics for the supreme court they essentially police themselves and that ruling is really important because it only proves me right, and it proves all of us, right? who think that he of course knew about the flags. of course, he he endorsed them and him making those statements to congress that oh, my wife did it. i don't know about it. oh, i did it because of a neighbor. those are lies and this is important for our country. we need to, we need to hold our elected officials accountable, and we need to have a congressional hearing. we need to enact term limits. 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because an assistant de found and disclosed handwritten notes about potential jurors from the trial i can 1990 5 this is a male black der someone has written here, must go further down on this card. >> i liked him better than any other jew, but no way they just thought jewish jurors were more liberal as one prosecutor said, black people don't like police. there were no butters there were no jewish jurors know jewish shares. >> the da pamela price had no comment on the expected release, but earlier, she did tell us this list dikes has 31 years behind bars, and so he has paid a price for that crime. >> she says, this guy, morris jacobson, was among the prosecuting attorneys on the case. we know he was involved in jury selection. >> yes unclear if a prosecutor or someone else wrote these words. he is now a judge here in alameda county, works here in this court has behind me, we call it a couple of times, asked for an interview. >> he said no court is over for the de we'd been waiting for a couple of hours to try and catch him on his way. at we haven't seen a federal judge believes this issue is much wider that in prior decades, prosecutors from this office, were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct. automatically excluding jewish, an african-american jurors in death penalty cases, it's when you have serious prosecutorial misconduct that means that the conviction is a wrongful conviction. and so it's a question of whether or not we're able to negotiate a resolution or whether we have to go back to trial, that federal judge has now ordered the da's office to review 35 capital cases among them convicted serial killers, mass shooters, rapists, and murderers stating from the 1980s through 2007, the only other solution is that they get at for, for some that may be the solution. >> and for some that should be the solution. right? like i said, i i believe mr. smith did not do the crime, sentenced to die for killing lauren germane during an armed robbery in the mid 80s, the victims daughter just spoke to cnn was a fun dad. he would always take us fishing and camping and my mom worked swing shift, so he was the guy home at night. haven was the tooth fairy. >> she was too afraid to show her face. >> and my biggest fears. >> what if he gets out of chow? just that somebody out there hurt my dad and then he's gonna be out there. and who's to say he's not going to hurt me? >> brian pomerantz is looking through all those 35 case files in almost all the cases we've seen lists like this. and as we have names and next to it, you'll see them be male black. >> okay. >> fb, female black, or they were writing the race only of african-americans. they weren't writing the race of anyone else in 2008 82008. do you also contend that this issue was then covered up over the years? absolutely believe that's true. >> there was knowledge there had to be now because during an appeal in 2003 or former alameda deputy da testified it was standard practice to exclude jewish jurors and death cases as it was to exclude african-american women. >> it is ironic, they didn't want me on the jury and now i'm just to get 30. >> this is from the 1992 case file, a. franklin lynch, aka the day stalker, convicted of murdering three elderly women, but during jury selection, half they were so concerned about that person even being half black that they flagged that not once weiss, i mean, franklin lynch was convicted and it's basically a serial killer. >> he's now somebody that should catch a break because of this this is a tragedy on all level, right? 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>> yeah, it does. i mean, it says that since april that there has been a spike in threats and that is when this trial began on april 15th, that very day, according to prosecutors, they were bomb threats at the homes of two people that are working on the case hey, say also said that there was a threatening post of that disclose the home address of someone also at the da's office and there was another opposed that put this sniper sites over images of some of the prosecutors working on the team. and they also said that there have been death threats against the district attorney, his family, and some members of the team. and according to the prosecution some of these threats said we will kill you all. your life is done. now, this decision will ultimately lie with the judge be interesting to see if he does lift this gag order before the sentencing, but prosecutors are saying they even wanted to stay in place to protect the staff through the appeal. john to the appeal, kara scannell. thank you for that important reporting joining us now to discuss andrew mccabe, he's currently are senior law enforcement analysts also with us the retired new york city judge george grosso, andy, let me start with you. so it's not a leave it all in place. david partially in place. you heard qarrah lay it out. sound reasonable it does sound reasonable. >> and i think what the da is trying to accomplish here is absolutely a laudable goal. and to be clear, john donald trump creates risk and danger for people because of the rhetoric that he chooses to use and the behavior he engages in full stop. there is no doubt about that but but honestly, the da is in a tough spot here. because even though what he's asking for is reasonable, it is actually limited. there's a limited time horizon, there's a limited amount of restrictions on speech that you can impose upon people, particularly when the original reason for doing so was to protect the criminal justice process, right? to protect a witnesses and the jurors who were involved in this trial. and then more broadly, the people in the prosecutor's office and of course, their families who are caught up in it by virtue of the jobs that they do that process, is? coming to an end. it's essentially over for for judge merchan when the sentencing takes place. >> so the da's kind of footing to make these arguments is shrinking by the day and meanwhile, the damage, the potential damage of the danger that donald trump creates for these people? >> people goes on judge basso, a former president in court, is unique. >> have you ever seen maybe it's a mob trial, maybe it's gangs, threats of this scope and scale and specificity before this is extraordinary so i was a judge for almost 13 years and the new york city criminal courts before that, i was nypd for over 30 years. >> so i remember, for example, the john gadi multiple john gadi prosecutions john gady didn't do the types of things that donald trump has been doing to use the so-called bully pulpit of the trial to constantly attack prosecutors families of prosecutors, judges, families of judge's court staff and is andrew mccabe was just saying and by the way, i saw him last night with anderson cooper i think he's a great american and what he's going through, no american should have to go through. so here we have a judge michigan in this scenario where he has to maintain an orderly court process so i certainly think and i think that bragg de bragg made the right move when he excluded the witnesses from this gag over time because their job is basically done but the but the court staff still has a job to do as we go into sentencing. the da and the da's can't the assistant district attorneys, if they're constantly worrying about their families because donald trump is not stupid with it. stuff he might not be actually articulating a threat on these individuals himself. but when he vociferous attacks them and blames him for wrongfully prosecuting him. and he goes after specific individuals he knows what through truth, social, and millions of people, he has outreach to. he knows exactly what's going to happen. it's predictable. so i think this gag order, if i was the presiding judge, i would leave the gag order in place. until the de of sentencing, which is now scheduled for january for july 11. if it were to go past sentencing with a go past july 11, i would keep the gag. order in place until we did sentencing, but i do believe i agree that the footprint is getting smaller and to think that we could keep a gag order in place through an appeal process that could go on for potentially years. i think that would be an overreach, so that's where i am on this and why and so andrew a little more context. >> the prosecution's filing says the nypd has logged 56 actionable threats. that's the case. both actionable threats against de a bragg is family as an employee sincerely able to explain to the layman who might understand that means it's not just urine idiot. you're a moron or there'll be paid back. what is actionable threat mean? >> these are threats that are clear indicators of an intent to commit violence and predominantly by people who you can identify and potentially even locate. that's what makes them actionable if they have 50, 60 of those, they've got ten times as many unanswered actionable threat. so harassing, emails, phone calls, letters, things like that, that just don't have enough meat on the bone to be able to take action from the law enforcement side. but john, that's the direction they need to start looking because this judge said, you can't you're not going to get this gag order forever at some point, they need to start looking at these actions as crimes and treating them edinburgh cave, judge grass. so again, the conversation to be continued as the case moves forward. thank you for coming in tonight and coming up for us details on the extreme heat that has now taken hundreds let's of lives during the hajj pilgrimage to mecca. and why authorities fear the final death toll may climb much higher. plus the astronauts stuck in space by their boeing spacecraft. >> that craft is acting up. the details next new icy hot pro massaging bone, easier to grip the massage and the power of two max strength pain relievers. >> i just works fast jeep makes it less new. >> i see how pro massaging boehm how an excellent warren g. warranty blurring, ci got to go. you must have american home shield i do now. i can tell you our appliances in home systems are protected covered repairs and replacements are taken care of. what and she never lies cookie dough your brain health. married janet. hey eddie, know, fraser, frankank bred how are you? 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