later in the program, steve cohen and frank gaffney, two distinguished experts will be bait a debate all of this and we'll talk about the russian oil story and talks. meanwhile, topic a-1 tonight, joe biden's acknowledgment that team oma misread the pr economy d the risg unemployment rate. take a listen to this. >> the truth is, the was a misreading of just how bad an econy we inherited. now, that -- i'm n lying -- it's now our responsibilit so the second question becomes did the econom package we put in me place, inclung the recovery e act, is the right package given the circumstances we're in? and we believe it is the right package. >> all right. i don't think it's the right package, but here is the key point. even an optimist like myself has to acknowledge the big drop in june jobs for both payrolls and households tells a bad story and postpones recovery. there isn't going to be a real recovery until jobs start rising. it's the most important coincidence economic indicator. and even while leading indicators from fed money creation and financial improvements and credit market sprea

frank gaffney, director of the center for security policy, let me turn first to you, frank gaffney. you're critical of what the president has just done with president medvedev of russia. why? >> lou, i'm worried about it in its own right. i think that he's acting in great haste under an artificial deadline imposed by this start treaty that is supposed to expire at the end of the year. he's making cuts that i think are too deep, that are unverifiable, and that, unfortunately, worst of all, mask the real agenda of this president, which is not to move in some sort of lock-step with the russians as much as it is to move the united states aggressively, and i think even unilaterally, in the direction that he has campaigned for, which is a nuclear free world. it turns out "the new york times" said last sunday that this ambition has been one he's had since 1983 when he was a radical at columbia. a radical at columbia. and i think when you see what he is not doing to maintain our arsen arsenal, to modernize it, let alone to test it you really realize what he's working towards is not so much

joining us, talking with frank gaffney of center for security policy. lot of work on these type of groups and others at the center for security policy. frank, what is the website for your group? >> sorry? >> eric: website? >> securefreedom.org. >> eric: securefreedom.org. if you want more information on all this. frank gaffney. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> eric: thank you for joining us. >> jamie: new information about the murder of a couple in florida. the sheriff department there opening the billings' stolen safe that the robbers took. what were the killers expecting to find? we're remembering walt walter cronkite. we have a man joining for more on the man who set the bar for tv journalism. the classic flavors of tuscany inspiration for... dinner bell sfx: ping ping ping fancy feast elegant medleys tuscany entrÉes restaurant inspired dishes with long grain rice and garden greens is it love? or is it fancy feast? ♪ so blessed with inspiration ♪ ♪ i don't know much ♪ but i know i love you ♪ and that may be ♪ all i need ♪ to know (announcer) customers l

frank gaffney, former undersecretary of defense, great guy, head of the center for security policy, the speed mine is in a book, has launched a lawsuit. all right, backing a lawsuit against aig and it's really cool. he says that aig sharia compliance fund is an act of the government which now owns 80% of aig. and as a result violates the separation of church and state because its government funding and institution of religion. [applause] now, and that coal? and that lawsuit needs money and support and it needs friends and please consult the part of the book where i give you the place to send all of that. so listen, we are at a crucial crossroads here, and barack obama has lost 12 points of job approval in the last 12 weeks. [applause] the gallup poll has him dropping from 70 to 58. restless and has him dropping from 65 to 53. i prefer rasmussen but the point is that he's dropping. and when he drops to 53 and 52 that is the share of the vote he got in the election so at that point he's actively shedding votes. it's people that voted for him and say now that they don't improve of the job

grow we don't know a lot about it so we called in president of the center for security policy frank gaffneyy from atlanta. hi, frank. >> good morning, steve. steve: first of all, i used to live in fairfax county. i'm familiar with the case here. it has been called terror high. why? >> this is a school that the saudis have established in the united states as part of a much more broad-reaching effort on their part to promote what they believe is the true authoritative version of islam. it has at its core a program, and we talked about it before, called sur rhea. by its very nature it adherence the belief that their obligation, the supremacist idea is they must ensure that islam triumphs over all others. fly jihad and more stementy means where violence is not possible. this academy is part and parcel of that program. >> so the academy wants to expand. wants to get bigger. i think there are four or 500 people showed up last night in fairfax county mostly to say we can't let this happen right now. let's talk about a little bit about the saudis who were involved in this, they say there is nothing

. >> frank gaffney for the american policy is back there. >> server -- >> mr. gaffney, dr. gaffney is a pleasure. you've helped me so much with this book. >> thank you. very remote. thank you for doing it and the effect it's obviously having and for putting this on the air. i came in late. i apologize. there were two points i want to make sure you did cover and if you did, i apologize and if you didn't please go at it. one is bill bram the chairman of the estimate on loss of lives we would sustain some of which is specifically earmarked so it would seem as though this is a propitious moment not only to be doing this education but encouraging these members to make sure at least a portion of those funds are in fact applied for hardening the grade at the same time we are planning for its upgrade. thank you. >> dr. gaffney, i must have to do -- i have to say something. remember in the old movies. there is an old teacher her name is diane st. clair and she gets upset when i don't give her the proper quote. she was going through a draft of my book before it came out and she said

and frank gaffney, the former undersecretary of defense, head of the center for policy, has launched a lawsuit. correction, backing a lawsuiting against aeg. it's really cool. he says that aeg sharia compliance fund is an act of the government which now owns 80% of aeg, and as a result violates the separation of church and state. because it's government funding an institution of religion. [applause] >> now, ain't that cool. and that lawsuit needs money, and it needs support, and it needs friends, and please consults the part of the back where i give you the place to send all that. so we are at a crucial crossroad here, and president obama has lost 12 points of job approval in the last 12 weeks. applause. >> gallup has him dropping from 70 to 58. was muse send has him dropping from 65 to 53. i prefer was muse -- when he drops from 63 to 52, that's share of the vote. so at that point he is shedding votes, and he is doing everything he can to drop his job approval. he is screwing up the health care system, doubling utility rates, going to race taxes on the middle class as a result of hi

frank gaffney, the former undersecretary of defense, great guy, head of the center for security policy, the url is in the book, has launched a lawsuit and is backing a lawsuit against aig. it is really cool. he says that aig sharia law compliance fun is an act of a government which now owns 80% of aig. and as a result flyleaves the separation of church and state because its government funding and institution of religion. [applause] now, it ain't that cool? in that lawsuit needs money in in in support in use friends and, please, consult the part of the book for and give a place to send all of that. so listen, we are at a crucial crossroads here. end barack obama has lost 12 points of job approval in the last 12 weeks. [applause] gallup has them dropping 7258, rasmussen has some dropping from 65 to 53. i refer -- i prefer rasmussen but the point is his shopping and when he drops to 53 and 52, that is the share of the vote he got in the election so at that point he is actively shedding boats. in his people that voted for him and say now they don't approve of the job he is doing. and he is

. >> frank gaffney center for security policies in the back there. sir, mr.gaffney, it's a pleasure to finally -- dr. gaffney. it's a pleasure. you've helped me so much with this book. >> thank you. from very remote. thank you for doing it and for the affect it's having. cliff, thank you for putting this on the air. i came in late. i apologize. there were two points i wanted to make sure you did cover. one is bill graham the chairman of the mp commissions commitment of the losses of lives that we would sustain within a year if you didn't touch that, please do. and the other is, in my experience -- and i see trey is here. i know he's had a similar kind of difficulty wrestling with congress appropriating even some cases authorizing funds for priorities. i've never seen a sort of perfect lineup like this where as peter was saying not only we've got senior republicans but senior democrats now beginning to appreciate this is a severe problem both from the missile threat delivered version and the natural version. but we also have this unbelievably vast sum of money

frank gaffney is president of the center for security policy and a former deputy assistant secretary nse. hot as a hate crimes bill have to do with the f-22, frank? >> practical nothing at all, except that during the complicated practice of the united states senate, as you just heard, the key of your being linked. so the convenience of those promoting this troubling legislation known as the hate crimes bill -- jon: on the surface, it seems like a good thing. no one to be beaten up or killed because of the elements in the bill, right? >> nobody should, and there are other ways to ensure they are not rather than creating a new mechanism. chad is my profound concern about legislation, and a new mechanism will be used. i think you can actually count on it. it will be used by islamists seeking to prevent us from talking about or countering their efforts to bring sharia to the united states and package it as a kind of hate speech. that is part of a much larger agenda happening around the world. jon: that is the kind of very little is law and demanding that women not be educated, keep their