as an expert to talk about it frank gaffney this is a guy that is obsessed with shari'a law wants to convince americans that every single muslim on the planet is out there to get them by no means should anybody consider this man a credible expert on our nuclear arsenal but hey it is fox news that we're talking about right so i guess it's not all that shocking but then i felt it was just too important not to call them out every cable channel out there has their own agenda their own faults usually i like to pick on them in areas where they all fail collectively if there's one channel out there ginning up fear on a daily basis fear that is so on founded in any reality it's fox news and they deserve to be called out for it so i guess i just wish the other cable networks would do more to bring sanity back into the bait call out their competitors to put in the mean time people out there buying into the hysteria of a reduction in our nuclear arsenals if it's a bad thing is because our media chooses fear over truth and that's where fox news especially chooses to miss. well protests in afghan

quite a claim, and we have the author of that editorial, frank gaffney, he's the founder and presidentthe center for security policy. so, frank, you say this is more ideological than anything else. tell us about why. >> since 1983 when he was a radical student in columbia university, the president has had this aspiration that he's going to get rid of america's nuclear arsenal. i think it's sort of dressed up as a, hey, if we do it, everybody else will follow. there's simply no evidence that that's the case. and as 34 members of the house of representatives note inside a letter to him -- noted in a letter to him urging him to pull back from this folly, they said this is blind ideology at work, and i think they're exactly right. you know what's really interesting about is, is it's kind of a subset of what's happening to our national defense more generally. the president is engaged in a similarly blind, i think, idealogically-driven effort to disarm this country. and a lot of it's been dressed up was budget discipline and reducing the deficit and so on, but i think really as this example