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with me is our security correspondent frank gardner. respondent frank gardner. what does this mear chances frank, what does this mean for any chances of future refreshment? —— refreshment. i chances of future refreshment? -- refreshment-— chances of future refreshment? -- refreshment. i think rapprochement is off the cards _ refreshment. i think rapprochement is off the cards for _ refreshment. i think rapprochement is off the cards for a _ refreshment. i think rapprochement is off the cards for a long _ refreshment. i think rapprochement is off the cards for a long time, - is off the cards for a long time, but eventually the two sides will have to sit together and ukraine's position is that by temporarily occupying some russian land, that gives them a stronger bargaining position and therefore in their view brings the chance of peace talks closer. when russia says it is off the table, big deal, they were of the table, big deal, they were of the table, big deal, they were of the table anyhow because russia's peace proposals were not real
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with me is frank gardner or security - frank gardner or security correspondent.s of the exchange at the moment. in of the details of the exchange at the moment-— of the details of the exchange at the moment. ,., , ., the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of— the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, _ the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, a _ the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, a lot _ the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, a lot of- the moment. in the bowl is a huge. amount of people, a lot of countries and a lot of behind—the—scenes work was up to six during for several reasons, notjust because of the large number of people involved, up to 24 large number of people involved, up to 2a possibly 26. that would make it the largest exchange of prisoners in this way since the end of the cold war. the most recent one perhaps was about ia people exchanged in 2010. it is perhaps was about 1a people exchanged in 2010. it is its ordinary as well because of the number of countries involved. turkish intelligence has ta
with me is frank gardner or security - frank gardner or security correspondent.s of the exchange at the moment. in of the details of the exchange at the moment-— of the details of the exchange at the moment. ,., , ., the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of— the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, _ the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, a _ the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, a lot _ the moment. in the bowl is a huge amount of people, a lot of-...
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frank gardner is still with me. we arejust to steve rosenberg. frank gardner is still with me.ils about what has happened in the deal that has been struck. ., ., ,., , happened in the deal that has been struck. ., ., , struck. there are no reports could be as many _ struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 _ struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 people _ struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 people who - struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 people who are - be as many 24 people who are involved in this exchange involving six countries. russia, the us, uk, germany, belarus and slovenia. extraordinary if this happens. it would make it even bigger than the exchange of 14 people in 2010. this would be the biggest change of prisoners since the end of the cold war by far. it hasn't happened yet but everyone at least on the western side is talking about it happening, because there is clearly an alignment of interests here. the signs were already there and steve alluded to it a little bit. when you see people starting to be given these very hea
frank gardner is still with me. we arejust to steve rosenberg. frank gardner is still with me.ils about what has happened in the deal that has been struck. ., ., ,., , happened in the deal that has been struck. ., ., , struck. there are no reports could be as many _ struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 _ struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 people _ struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 people who - struck. there are no reports could be as many 24 people who...
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that was frank gardner the latest.r 11th attacks in new york, khalid sheikh mohammed, and two of his accomplices have agreed to plead guilty. the three have been held at the us navy base guantanamo bay, cuba, for years without going to trial. according to us news outlets, the men agreed to admit to conspiracy charges in exchange for a life sentence, after a possible death sentence was excluded. the cases against the three have been mired in a decades—long controversy over whether their treatment at cia prisons compromised the evidence against them. 0ur correspondent jenny kumah reports. khalid sheikh mohammed has been described as the mastermind behind the deadliest attack on us soil since the attack on pearl harbor in the second world war. he and his co—accused have been held at guantanamo bay for nearly 20 years. the case has been bogged down by pre—trial hearings. defence lawyers had argued that the men�*s torture in prison had rendered the evidence against them unusable. now, the us department of defense has announ
that was frank gardner the latest.r 11th attacks in new york, khalid sheikh mohammed, and two of his accomplices have agreed to plead guilty. the three have been held at the us navy base guantanamo bay, cuba, for years without going to trial. according to us news outlets, the men agreed to admit to conspiracy charges in exchange for a life sentence, after a possible death sentence was excluded. the cases against the three have been mired in a decades—long controversy over whether their...
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our security correspondent frank gardner has the latest. week into ukraine's incursion into russia, the kremlin's forces are scrambling to push back its advance. extra units have been sent as ukraine now claims to be holding up to 1,000 square kilometres of russian territory. russian residents in the kursk 0blast are being evacuated as the fighting continues. around 180,000 civilians have so far been moved, many shocked that russia has been invaded for the first time since the second world war. in ukraine, public morale has been boosted by this unexpected turn of events. russia still occupies nearly a fifth of the country, but president zelensky is hoping this incursion will strengthen his hand in future peace negotiations. translation: russia brought war i to others, and now it's coming home. we can see how useful this can be for bringing peace closer. russia must be forced into peace. but in moscow at this emergency meeting, there was no talk of peace, only retaliation. the governor of kursk region started to describe the situation when h
our security correspondent frank gardner has the latest. week into ukraine's incursion into russia, the kremlin's forces are scrambling to push back its advance. extra units have been sent as ukraine now claims to be holding up to 1,000 square kilometres of russian territory. russian residents in the kursk 0blast are being evacuated as the fighting continues. around 180,000 civilians have so far been moved, many shocked that russia has been invaded for the first time since the second world war....
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i was talking to frank gardner.s inside russia, do you recognise what washington says about the danger of escalating this war, if they were to make a decision like that?- make a decision like that? well, i think... make a decision like that? well, i think--- you _ make a decision like that? well, i think... you see _ make a decision like that? well, i think... you see russia _ make a decision like that? well, i think... you see russia has - think... you see russia has absolutely no reaction at ukraine entering russia during territory. i think that is exaggerated. they perceive versions in different ways. from the position of their democracies and behaviour but not how russians behave usually. all dictatorships perceive any negotiation position as a weakness. they will continue to try to push. i think it is very logical to give ukraine permission to hit the targets in the long range because it will minimise losses, minimise investments we need from our partners for restoration, continuing this war, because we can sub
i was talking to frank gardner.s inside russia, do you recognise what washington says about the danger of escalating this war, if they were to make a decision like that?- make a decision like that? well, i think... make a decision like that? well, i think--- you _ make a decision like that? well, i think... you see _ make a decision like that? well, i think... you see russia _ make a decision like that? well, i think... you see russia has - think... you see russia has absolutely no reaction at...
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frank gardner, bbc news. to alexander lord, lead europe—eurasia analyst at the intelligence consultancy sibylline. thunder, thank you very much for joining us on the programme. —— matt alexander. when ukraine says it has no interest in occupying —— occupying fashion —— russian territory. does it make sense from a military point of view? i territory. does it make sense from a military point of view?— military point of view? i think both sides have struggled _ military point of view? i think both sides have struggled to _ military point of view? i think both sides have struggled to gain - military point of view? i think both sides have struggled to gain any . sides have struggled to gain any sort of butter forward momentum. sides have struggled to gain any sort of butterforward momentum. the betty ford have been dominated by very slow moving france and this is an attempt —— make butterfield have been dominated by very slow moving of france. at the moment, are on the back field in the donbas, is an attempt to tr
frank gardner, bbc news. to alexander lord, lead europe—eurasia analyst at the intelligence consultancy sibylline. thunder, thank you very much for joining us on the programme. —— matt alexander. when ukraine says it has no interest in occupying —— occupying fashion —— russian territory. does it make sense from a military point of view? i territory. does it make sense from a military point of view?— military point of view? i think both sides have struggled _ military point of...
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frank gardner, bbc news. now, how is russian media reporting the ukrainian incursion?en speaking with francis scarr, from bbc monitoring, who has been keeping a close eye on russian tv channels. yesterday, president tuten chaired a meeting with officials and steer clear of calling this an invasion or military operation. he appeared quite keen to play down the significance of what has happened. and we've seen russian state media taking his lead on this. earlier today, a military commander was on one of the popular political talk so saying the situation was under control and ukrainian forces were being pushed out of all of these settlements that they had occupied in the last week or so. they've also painted this picture of a country really coming together to help those affected, saying volunteers have been rushing to these temporary accommodation points to help provide aid to those affected. i think on the other hand, the reality on the ground is quite different and then some more independent reporting has suggested that locals have been essentially left to their own dev
frank gardner, bbc news. now, how is russian media reporting the ukrainian incursion?en speaking with francis scarr, from bbc monitoring, who has been keeping a close eye on russian tv channels. yesterday, president tuten chaired a meeting with officials and steer clear of calling this an invasion or military operation. he appeared quite keen to play down the significance of what has happened. and we've seen russian state media taking his lead on this. earlier today, a military commander was on...
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several of the yemeni accounts bore the blue tick of verification. 0ur security correspondent — frank gardnerfirst went there in the 19805 and was amazed to see powerful automatic weapons from libya, from russia, from the balkans being openly traded at open air desert markets east of the capital, sana'a. so it's no surprise that weapons are being traded. but the extraordinary thing here, as you rightly say, is that it's being done not on the dark web where you would expect this to be taking place, where a lot of illicit, illegal, banned substances and items and materials are traded. but on x, formerly known as twitter and the times newspaper got a tip off and did their investigation over the last ten days. and they've counted around 68 traders who are offering these weapons, which range from assault rifles to hand grenades to rocket propelled grenades, to pistols for hundreds of dollars. payments in ryals, either yemeni ryals or saudi. and bbc did their own diligence as well. and we found that, um, there is even a video there with a guy giving a demonstration of a kalashnikov, which he loads
several of the yemeni accounts bore the blue tick of verification. 0ur security correspondent — frank gardnerfirst went there in the 19805 and was amazed to see powerful automatic weapons from libya, from russia, from the balkans being openly traded at open air desert markets east of the capital, sana'a. so it's no surprise that weapons are being traded. but the extraordinary thing here, as you rightly say, is that it's being done not on the dark web where you would expect this to be taking...
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frank gardner is with me now and will be able to explain the significance of this because they are reporting we are seeing now, as part of this major exchange, that vadim krasikov is one of those being exchanged and is one of those being exchanged and is one of those being exchanged and is on this plane at ankara in turkey. frank, two things you can update us on. first, why ankara and why turkey? also, the significance of mr cursive golf?— of mr cursive golf? door, vadim krasikov. _ of mr cursive golf? door, vadim krasikov, who _ of mr cursive golf? door, vadim krasikov, who saw— of mr cursive golf? door, vadim krasikov, who saw a _ of mr cursive golf? door, vadim krasikov, who saw a picture - of mr cursive golf? door, vadim i krasikov, who saw a picture there, he is currently serving a life sentence in germany or was, until today, serving a life sentence for the murder in 2019 in berlin's park, of an egyptian georgian dissident, who shot at point—blank range and the court called this a state—sponsored murder by russia, which the kremlin denied. he is somebody who investigators have said is
frank gardner is with me now and will be able to explain the significance of this because they are reporting we are seeing now, as part of this major exchange, that vadim krasikov is one of those being exchanged and is one of those being exchanged and is one of those being exchanged and is on this plane at ankara in turkey. frank, two things you can update us on. first, why ankara and why turkey? also, the significance of mr cursive golf?— of mr cursive golf? door, vadim krasikov. _ of mr...
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reports and analysis from our correspondents around the region, including security correspondent frank gardnera wider war. you can find all of that on the bbc news website and app. we will pause. time for a check on the sport. after wins for last season's top two, manchester city and arsenal, the team that finished third, liverpool, return to action later. brentford will be the visitors at anfield for what will be arne slot�*s first premier league home game in charge and the new liverpool boss says he's looking forward to the occassion. no, i'm not nervous at all, certainly not at this moment because i'm in the middle of preparation, prepared the team for sunday and so, no, nerves are not there. if you've got nerves then you probably don't trust what you did before, you don't trust your team, and i trust what we as a staff do during the whole week to prepare the team in the best possible way and i trust the team a lot as well again on sunday. before that match, two other games in the premier league — newcastle will hope to make it two wins from two when they go to bournemouth, whilst chelsea t
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let's speak to bbc security correspondent frank gardner. think it is good news for ceasefire talks and good news for israel. this is something the pinata for some time. mohamed and from and is a significant figure and has been described by the israelis today as the osama bin laden of hamas, so i'm not sure that is an accurate description because he is a military commander rather than necessarily the intellectual brains, which was more yahya sinwar. but this is someone been targeting for a very long time, someone whose been hiding in tunnels, so they would like to have killed right at the beginning of the whole gaza retaliation operation, the october the 7th raid, and along with yahya sinwar, he is right at the top of the tree they have been trying to cut down, to try to dismantle hamas�* military operation. mohammed deif was born in 1965 in khan younis, the same place he has reportedly been killed in, and he's been leading a brigade which is the military wing of hamas. robodebt hamas is a proscribed terrorist by many governments and therefo
let's speak to bbc security correspondent frank gardner. think it is good news for ceasefire talks and good news for israel. this is something the pinata for some time. mohamed and from and is a significant figure and has been described by the israelis today as the osama bin laden of hamas, so i'm not sure that is an accurate description because he is a military commander rather than necessarily the intellectual brains, which was more yahya sinwar. but this is someone been targeting for a very...
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deploy enough of its troops to surround and cut off ukrainian forces before they can withdraw, says frank gardner, the bbc's security correspondent. during the week, ukrainian telegram channels publish a lot of videos with russian prisoners. four days ago, volodymyr zelensky even thanked the armed forces of ukraine for replenishing the exchange fund on... or on the positive consequences for ukraine of the kurdish operation. however, as of yesterday, russian pro-war telegram channels also began to publish videos of alleged ukrainian prisoners. exactly how many ukrainians could have been captured in kurshchyna is unknown. for a week in a row, rfe/rl has been asking the president's office and the general staff for a comment, but they are currently refusing to comment on kurshchyna, even after volodymyr zelenskyy officially confirmed the participation of the armed forces of ukraine in the kursk operation. chief oleksandr. reported the day before that ukrainian troops control approximately 1,000 km of the kursk region. at the same time, the ukrainian authorities do not specify exactly which settlement
deploy enough of its troops to surround and cut off ukrainian forces before they can withdraw, says frank gardner, the bbc's security correspondent. during the week, ukrainian telegram channels publish a lot of videos with russian prisoners. four days ago, volodymyr zelensky even thanked the armed forces of ukraine for replenishing the exchange fund on... or on the positive consequences for ukraine of the kurdish operation. however, as of yesterday, russian pro-war telegram channels also began...
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joining me now is our security correspondent frank gardner. well, what about ukraine, frank? risky for president zelensky, isn't it? it is. yes, it is a high—risk, high return strategy. ultimately, president zelensky and his military chiefs are faced with a stark choice will stop do they stay or do they go? this is not a simple shoot and scoot across the border, plant a few flags, take a few selfies and cross back into ukraine. they appear to be digging in. there is already footage of them erecting barriers along the border, starting to build defences. they are starting to talk about building a field hospital, evacuation routes. so the riskier for ukraine is that the longer they stay, the greater risk that russia, as it slowly grinds its military operation into gear, will amass enough troops to either surround them, kill, or capture them, and that will reverse all the benefit of this entire operation for ukraine. but if they stay, they could use it as a bargaining chip when negotiations for peace finally start. frank, thank you. here, the rate of inflation has risen slightly
joining me now is our security correspondent frank gardner. well, what about ukraine, frank? risky for president zelensky, isn't it? it is. yes, it is a high—risk, high return strategy. ultimately, president zelensky and his military chiefs are faced with a stark choice will stop do they stay or do they go? this is not a simple shoot and scoot across the border, plant a few flags, take a few selfies and cross back into ukraine. they appear to be digging in. there is already footage of them...
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with me is our security correspondent frank gardner., but let's starts with ukraine's options.- lots to discuss, but let's starts with ukraine's options. let's bullet riaht with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down. — with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down. stay — with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down, stay or _ with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down, stay or leave, - with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down, stay or leave, because j right down, stay or leave, because in the past, when ukrainian incursions have gone into russia, they have used per ukrainian russian mercenaries essentially who have gone in, plundered the fly, taken a few selfies, done a bit of disruption and then cleared off back across the border. this is not like that, it is something much bigger planned over a period of time, really cleverly executed and well organised using something called combined arms manoeuvres, in other words using notjust tanks and infantry but all the elements of modern warfare, air defence, electronic
with me is our security correspondent frank gardner., but let's starts with ukraine's options.- lots to discuss, but let's starts with ukraine's options. let's bullet riaht with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down. — with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down. stay — with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down, stay or _ with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down, stay or leave, - with ukraine's options. let's bullet right down, stay or leave, because j right down, stay...
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with me as frank gardner, what is interesting about this and we have to put it in context, if very specificsador to russia was saying, you have an example of where russia and other countries notably the us can do a deal and stick to it. it countries notably the us can do a deal and stick to it.— deal and stick to it. it will be surprising — deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to _ deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to a _ deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to a lot _ deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to a lot of - deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to a lot of people, deal and stick to it. it will be l surprising to a lot of people, i deal and stick to it. it will be i surprising to a lot of people, i am honoured to getting messages... sorry to cut you off but the wall streetjournal are treating that evan gershkovich is free. confirmation from the wall street journal that the reporter evan gershkovich is three. as one of ctrl it is said he has been a cause celebre in the usa, the 32—year—old journalist was charged with treason and sentenced last
with me as frank gardner, what is interesting about this and we have to put it in context, if very specificsador to russia was saying, you have an example of where russia and other countries notably the us can do a deal and stick to it. it countries notably the us can do a deal and stick to it.— deal and stick to it. it will be surprising — deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to _ deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to a _ deal and stick to it. it will be surprising to a lot...
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our security correspondent — frank gardner — recounted his own experiences of visiting yemen.ee powerful automatic weapons from libya, russia, the balkans being openly traded in open—air desert markets east of the capital. so it's no surprise that weapons are being trained up of the extraordinary thing here as, you brightly said is it is being done, and on the dark web where you would expect this be taking place where a lot of licit and banned substances and items and materials are traded, but on x. times newspaper got a tip off and if their investigation over the last ten days and they have counted around 68 traders who are offering these weapons which range from assault rifles to hand grenades to robert propelled grenades to pistols for hundreds of dollars, payments in yemeni reels or saudi reels and bbc did its own intelligence as well and find there is even a video now where the guy giving a demonstration of a clash and cough surprise that capital. so it's no surprise that weapons are being trained up of the extraordinary thing here as, you brightly said is extraordinary t
our security correspondent — frank gardner — recounted his own experiences of visiting yemen.ee powerful automatic weapons from libya, russia, the balkans being openly traded in open—air desert markets east of the capital. so it's no surprise that weapons are being trained up of the extraordinary thing here as, you brightly said is it is being done, and on the dark web where you would expect this be taking place where a lot of licit and banned substances and items and materials are...
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frank gardner, bbc news. let's get the latest now from our russia editor steve rosenberg in moscow. the language used by president putin in recent days to describe the ukrainian incursion is interesting and it is telling. he has used phrases like "the situation close can in the border area, though provocation. the one word we have not heard from vladimir putin is the word invasion and i suspect that is a conscious decision by the kremlin. it sends a message to the russian people that are ok, the situation is serious but it is controllable. it is containable, no need to panic. our russians panicking? i don't get any sense here in moscow were the sense of panic but there is i would say a deep sense of resignation from people that yet another dramatic development after a string of dramas that people have witnessed over the last two and a half years.— last two and a half years. steve, thank yom _ firefighters in greece say they're starting to bring wildfires that were threatening the capital athens under control. high temperatures and strong winds combined to create a series of blazes,
frank gardner, bbc news. let's get the latest now from our russia editor steve rosenberg in moscow. the language used by president putin in recent days to describe the ukrainian incursion is interesting and it is telling. he has used phrases like "the situation close can in the border area, though provocation. the one word we have not heard from vladimir putin is the word invasion and i suspect that is a conscious decision by the kremlin. it sends a message to the russian people that are...
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i wonder, just picking up on a point i was discussing with frank gardner here in the studio a moment ds of possibility that turkey might emerge as a place where negotiations might take place around the war in ukraine. what are your thoughts on that? well, exactly. as frank said, the turks have - obviously done a very professional, effective job in pulling all of thisj together, and they've delivered. they were, as frank also said, - the people who pulled together peace negotiations at the very beginning of the war, which very _ nearly succeeded. i've met some of the negotiators on the ukrainian side, _ and they were very frustrated that those negotiations - finally fell down. and, yes, this does give . the turks extra credibility. if there's any move _ towards a negotiation on either side between the russians and the ukrainians. . but should we look at this exchange in isolation? is that your instinct at this point? yeah, i don't think... well, except that it's a sign that the two . sides can make deals - which they then deliver on. as frank also said, relations - between the united s
i wonder, just picking up on a point i was discussing with frank gardner here in the studio a moment ds of possibility that turkey might emerge as a place where negotiations might take place around the war in ukraine. what are your thoughts on that? well, exactly. as frank said, the turks have - obviously done a very professional, effective job in pulling all of thisj together, and they've delivered. they were, as frank also said, - the people who pulled together peace negotiations at the very...
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let's speak to our security correspondent — frank gardner.y, how on earth do you think that weapons like these came to be sold openly on x?— that weapons like these came to be sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very. — sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very. shall— sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we _ sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we put _ sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we put it, _ sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we put it, lively, i had a very, shall we put it, lively, trade in weapons. i went there in the 1980s and was amazed to see powerful automatic weapons from libya, russia, the balkans, being openly traded at open—air desert markets east of the capital. it is no surprise that weapons have been traded, but the extraordinary thing is that it is being done, not on the dark web, where you would expect it to be taking place for a lot of illicit, illegal, banned substances and items and materials are traded, but on x, formerly known as twitte
let's speak to our security correspondent — frank gardner.y, how on earth do you think that weapons like these came to be sold openly on x?— that weapons like these came to be sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very. — sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very. shall— sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we _ sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we put _ sold openly on x? yemen has always had a very, shall we put it, _ sold openly on x? yemen...
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you know, our stories are in the headlines and we see people like frank gardner being left on board, flights, we drafted what we call the assisted air travel act, which is a piece of legislation that we hope will improve upon the current laws that just do that we hope will improve upon the current laws thatjust do not go far enough to protect us in the uk, and we want to work with the government, we want to work with the government, we want to set out a sort of roadmap, create a task force that is comprised of the disabled community, represented by all the types of people that need help, and also, industry stakeholders, and say, what can we do to do more, and how can we change this so this stops happening? because we have been saying enough is enough for such a long time. so thatis is enough for such a long time. so that is what we are hoping will be achieved when we next get our meeting with the transport secretary, and hopefully the aviation minister as well. is aviation minister as well. is it art of aviation minister as well. is it part of the — aviation minister as well. is it p
you know, our stories are in the headlines and we see people like frank gardner being left on board, flights, we drafted what we call the assisted air travel act, which is a piece of legislation that we hope will improve upon the current laws that just do that we hope will improve upon the current laws thatjust do not go far enough to protect us in the uk, and we want to work with the government, we want to work with the government, we want to set out a sort of roadmap, create a task force that...