you have to have suites. >> rose: you hired frank ghery as your architect, you love frank ghery,. >> that is absolutely true. z. >> rose: more about that in a moment so what happened there. frank was coming, he is going to design your place and frank is no longer there. he's no longer designing this. frank ghery the most admired, best known architect in america. >> yes. >> rose: you had him. >> hi him, that's true. >> rose: what happened? >> november, october, november '08 comes along. the world falls a part. and we need to fund this arena. we need to get bonds. at reena that frank designed was beautiful but de it as a composition. there were four buildings around the arena that were integrated as part of the arena. he built a composition, not only anarena. the world falls a part. now you cannot get financing, probably not on the arena almost, but certainly not the four buildings that are integrated. >> rose: and you said one the bankers told that you. >> it didn't take a lot to tell me. in those days as you remember, nothing could be financed. you couldn't finance a home. >> rose: w

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