that in san francisco in the last 19 years there's actually been moderate mayors starting with frank jordane former police chief, who's probably the most conservative of the moderates, and then eight years of willie brown. and anywhere else in the country they'd go are you joking saying willie brown's a moderate? but he's very pro development, pro business in san francisco. and gavin newsom coming in. and people would say are you crazy? he's pro gay marriage, universal health care, he wants to do tied power, going down the list. i don't think it was just for gavin newsom. i think for a citywide office that san franciscans have said at least for the past two decades, we kind of want a moderate in that seat, board of supervisors have your way, do what you want. >> belva: we'll get back to the mayor, but we should talk about kamala harris, who made history too this week. >> so kamala harris was the district attorney of san francisco who was just sworn in as the state's attorney general. the first southeast asian, african-american woman in that job. the question is good for her. we know she's g