let's bring in frank keating.governor of oklahoma and now the american banking association ceo and president. wonderful to have you, governor. can we still blame the extreme weather for these weaker numbers? >> this is a pretty grim quarter. i serve on title insurance company board and when i first saw them i was really stunned. i think weather has a big role to play here. remember those of us who bought cases in my cases, my case, many houses it took more than a couple months to figure out, is this house that really want. so i think that now that the spring appears to be here, it's a good time to see if you will not see more activity. 4,000 pages ever qualified mortgage rules under dodd-frank. that has a chilling effect. as a matter of fact we have did a poll at american bankers association, showing 80% of our members think this will have chilling effect on our credit. i think student loan debt $6 trillion student loan debt will have a drag. i'm hoping that spring will see some sprouts in the housing finance and