that was the -- that was the watershed, frank lip, for outsourcing and moving fuel and food to the private sector. and under kbr, we're in log cap 4 pow and three different contractors hold it, over 30 billion, 30 -- 30 to 40 billion spent on it in iraq. but i think that the challenge that was new, and was not resolved, is a security issue. how do you outsource the aspects of the security management in a stabilization reconstruction operation? when historically, that's always been a government's nondellble dutied. and the commission of wartime contracting tried to get to this and identified it as a problem but unable to articulate a concrete solution for it. the congress is addressing it as well. less and less so since the operations are winding down and going away. the problem hadn't gone away. and i think that there needs to be a center of gravity for grappling with it when it's not in your face. that's what usoco would do -- begin to plan with the department and to work with the hill about structuring the solution. given iraq and afghanistan. and but -- but a system that doesn't have co

that was the -- that was the watershed, frank lip, for and urcing and moving fuel food to the private sector. and under kbr, we're in log cap pow and three different it, over 30 hold billion, 30 -- 30 to 40 billion in iraq.it but i think that the challenge new, and was not resolved, is a security issue. aspectsou outsource the of the security management in a reconstruction operation? when historically, that's always a government's nondellble dutied. and the commission of wartime tried to get to this and identified it as a problem unable to articulate a solution for it. the congress is addressing it as well. less and less so since the down and are winding going away. the problem hadn't gone away. nd i think that there needs to be a center of gravity for grappling with it when it's not in your face. usoco would do -- plan with the epartment and to work with the the about structuring solution. afghanistan.nd and but -- but a system that doesn't have concrete lines. and those lines need to be defined. >> if i can follow up on that uestion of security contracting, have you in your calculat