let's speak to frank ludwig, she's a senior lecturer and ministry strategy and the new at the university of portsmouth . he joins us via skype from august for thank you for your time. so he, we, we've had the, how potentially dangerous to civilians these cluster munitions are. why does you cry, month a month? unfortunately, we seem to have just lost connection with mr. ledge with we'll see we, if we can get some back lace in the program. meanwhile, ukrainian city is near the border with russia have a long history of russian influence that has shaped the identity. now, often more than a year being bombarded by russian artillery, they're trying to reconcile the past with that present. starting the whole reports from concave, the ukraine has been removing the symbols of its soviet process since independence in 1991. you can now cheaply buy a bust of linen should you won't one but collect followed immediately in v says, nobody does cause that to do that. as you need to level. i think it is so important, it is history. and if you forget history, then there's nothing left. for many, it is hist