we'll talk soon. >> thank you. >>> we're here in studio with cnn legal analyst joey jackson, frank luntzank, i'll start with you because that is really beautiful and important what he's doing and is particularly at a time where americans are reassessing how they feel about the involvement, contributing money to ukraine's war effort. >> actually they're not and one thing you should know is i did the same thing with your brother to have lunch with him. i wanted an hour. he gave me 2 1/2 hours. it was worth every dime. >> i'll give you three. i don't know if i can afford what my brother could, but that's okay. >> we are the same. 70% of americans want us to do exactly what we're doing or even more and only 28% want us to do less. the majority of republicans, independents, democrats, the vast majority want us engaged, involved and appreciate the investments because we see this is a crime against humanity. let us not mince words. either we hold the russians accountable now or we will have even worse consequences later. >> emma, how do you see it? >> i think that's absolutely right. we were he

. >>> back with me we have frank luntz, errol louis and mondaire jones. let's start with the politics and get to what frank was saying earlier, the american people still favor america's help to ukraine. but, you know, i don't know how much credence to give these little factions starting to pipe up and i don't know if kevin mccarthy will give them much credence but there are the marjorie taylor greene and lauren boeberts who say janet yellen announced another $10 billion in aid to ukraine. biden's blank check strategy is not sustainable considering the many crises at home he's ignoring. that's a common theme. focus just here. >> those people don't want to sell the crisis at home either but to your point, we have to convey to the american people, when i say, people of good conscience have to convey that it is in our geopolitical national interest to help the free people of ukraine fend off this unjust war being waged by russia for a variety of reasons not least of which russia is a nuclear power who will not stop at ukraine and who will increasingly pose a t

you're kidding let's bring in pollster frank luntz, and political strategist. ve got me all produced here, frank let me read this frank, let's start with medicare. >> some of my republican friends want to take the economy hostage, i get it, unless i agree to their economic plans. all of you at home should know what those plans are instead of making wealthy pay their fair share, some republicans want the medicare and social security sunset i'm not saying it's the majority. >> when i was -- i think you know speaker mccarthy. everyone i talked to yesterday in dc, i used the alternate facts economy because if you're in the hin ter lands and you're watching and you watch what president biden says and then watch what sarah huckabee sanders says, it's like they're living in alternative realities, and i got that a lot yesterday i mean that's just -- you've been doing this a long time. politicians are going to spin, but it seems like we're even further apart from deciding what's actually factual. >> look. the first responsibility of the president is to tell the truth loo

this is just a taste of what republican voters in arizona told frank luntz during a focus group just last week. >> why are we using the same system that they used in vel zana? >> many of these systems are democrat owned. how can we trust the checks and balances of these votes? it doesn't matter where the vote comes from, whether it's a dominion voting machine or a mail-in ballot, how can we trust that if george soros owns over 40% of these machines. >> we just don't trust, and because of that trust, we don't believe the truth that's being told to us. >> nothing they just said is true, but this is the more dangerous, by the way, consequence of lying to people. take a look. >> you see, lies don't exist in a vacuum. they fuel suspicion that leads to death, destruction, and the most serious threat to american democracy in modern history. very few republican politicians or fox pundits are held accountable for those lies. those who assaulted the capitol are being held accountable, roughly 1,000 of thome who were convinced to believe the big lie, have been prosecuted including enrico tario,

that's the subject of a great article in "the atlantic" this week about subjective age back with frank luntzma -- >> i'm 30. >> you're sticking there? >> i'm still not excited about necessarily going out on the weekends and being social past a certain time like i'm very happy to stay at home and watch netflix. >> maybe you are 35 in that case. >> no, but i also feel like i could if i wanted to and, you know, i'll stay out until maybe 11:00 or midnight but after that i've done this before. i've gotten that out of my system. >> emma, how old are you really. >> i'm 28. >> how old are you in your head. >> i'm forever 21 embracing free spirit. i have people talk about manifesting so i'm manifesting being just early 20s forever. >> i like even if you're in your 0s you're still younger. it's a phenomenon for everybody. i'm 37. not only am i forever 37, i've lied about my age so much that i forget how old i am like i've tricked myself into not knowing. i used to lie when i was younger, now i always lie i'm younger. i don't know how old i am. >> alex murdaugh, right? >> i'm a lot like alex murdaugh,

a guy named frank luntz is still around and he put the matter. he advised the gop not to challenge what he called were, quote, the most popular federal programs today, specifically conservation of public lands and waters through parks and open spaces. republicans have generally his advice ever since the tea party insurgency 2010 led to a republican recapture of the house but did not result in significant efforts to roll back protections for public lands. now, republican party platform, the last couple decades has occasionally alluded to, you know, let's think about selling off some public lands. it's kind of a dog whistle to the far right fringe. but no serious effort has ever been made to put those planks into practice. again, the chart tells the story arc going up in early 2009, president obama signed an omnibus public lands protection management act into law. most of its parts had been assembled earlier when the republican controlled the white house and one house of congress. it put millions more acres in the wilderness system, established for