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users and joining us now is that potential buyer, frank mccourt from project liberty. s. starting with what this case is setting up for today. the united states, the government is saying that this is a national security issue, because the owners are chinese, have access to 170 million americans' private information, and browsing activities. the company has pushed back saying, no, no. this is about the first amendment ringhts. where do you come down? >> first amendment, a big decoy, a smoke screen. hear that a lot from big tech. the first amendment and so forth. these are scraping data from millions of americans and using that data in ways way beyond making money. in this particular case because it's in the hands of the chinese communist country, they're using that information to manipulate us and affect our viewpoint on this. >> you've seen ed evidence. what evidence have you seen? >> if you see what's going on, comparing tiktok to, for instance, youtube or instagram, there is a -- they turn the volume up on information favorable to china. whether it's the uighurs, tibe

meaning, frank mccourt plan or anybody else to take it over may be null and void. >> the judges weresking specifically about other instances. one judge said why is this any different than foreign ownership of a broadcast company? sony can't own whatever broadcast company it was looking at? another point was a case from the reagan era and said the plo is not allowed to do something. national security and the idea of first amendment speech. some of the judges commented this is nottaking away free speech, but can't be owned and controlled by a foreign entity. >> i don't know how it plays out. this is dragging out now. we were talking about this a year ago, at least. >> the question becomes by counting down the clock, do you get to a point of a new administration and trump signalled he is no longer opposed to this. maybe this law goes away. >> you were saying you haven't seen anything. we waited a year. have you seen anything yet? >> i still haven't seen anything yet. i'm always talking about the documentation issue. if the united states wants to make just the straight argument that -- l