meyer remained sufficiently respected and known among at least and over -- an older generation of conservatives that there is a frank myers aside here in washington, which i'm going to be a little group of conservative leaders who keep his memory alive. they're going to meet on monday night and i'll be speaking to them. meyer has been described by rusher as the intellectual engine of the conservative movement. he, too, was an ex-communist as burnham was. but meyer was a conservative activist. a passionate conservative activist. rusher even told me that meyer had once said, i, rusher had been a militant republican. quote, they are not all that far apart, except in what they believe. what rusher meant by that is that he had a tremendous attraction to and respect for, frankly for political obsession. meyer was both an election upset. he had a house that was literally full of books. it's hard to imagine, hard to describe his books were absolutely everywhere. so extreme intellectual but also extremely logical. as david janes, the long-term, the longer with longtime chairman of the american civil liberties union, you go,