now for 30 years the question has been asked, did frank morris and clarence anglin get off the rock ande? >> i don't think so. if you look at the circumstantial evidence it doesn't look probable. the men were repetitive criminals. it was reported that morris had 14 prior escape attempts and in every attempt he was brought back. >> two more convicts escaped in december of 1962, one man actually made it to san francisco where he was captured half dead from hypothermia but that was the end for alcatraz. the toughest thing that cons could do passed into history. >>> members of the anglin family travel to the prison where their brothers escaped from in 1962. >>> tonight on a second look we've been remembering an escape a half century ago of three men from alcatraz. rita williams traveled to the rock with family members of those men who say they believe their relatives made it to freedom and possibly even sent a message to the family. >> it was june 11th 1962 and it was big news. >> it appears to be the first successful escape in the history of the maximum security prison. the men the walls c

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