. >> the one immediately before was frank murphy. there was a gap of a few years which is an interesting part of the story. cardinal spellman came to see president eisenhower on a couple of different occasions and said, hey, remember the catholic seat after frank murphy had been off the court for a few years? remember the catholic seat? it would be nice if you got as another one some time. when eisenhower heard that sherman was retiring and that he was going to have this vacancy to fill one of the first things he said was, you know, remember the visit. >> who took his spot? >> yes. i remember hearing some folks say that there were statements by eisenhower. the biggest mistake he ever made was born and bred in. >> the answer is yes and no. there is substantial evidence that eisenhower thought that. there is no evidence that he actually ever said the words publicly even though they are too rigid to him and dozens of history books. actually had a bizarre experience early in this process of tracing those words. you know, you go from one

[laughter] >> the one immediately before brennan was frank murphy. and there was a gap of a few years which is an interesting part of the story. cardinal spelman came to see president eisenhower on a couple of different occasions and said, hey, remember the catholic seat after frank murphy had been off the court for a few years, hey, remember the catholic seat? would be nice if you got us another one sometime, mr. president. and when eisenhower heard that sherman minton was retiring and that he was going to have this vacancy to fill, one of the first things he said was, you know, remember the visit from cardinal spelman, let's look for a catholic. >> well, you mentioned -- was it souter who took his spot? >> souter, yes. >> oh, souter. i remembered hearing some folks say that there were statements by eisenhower later that the biggest mistakes he ever made were warren and brennan. was there any -- did he ever -- >> the answer is yes and no. there's substantial evidence that eisenhower thought that. >> uh-huh. >> there is no evidence that he actually e

that was congressman newt gingrich in 1997, barney frank in 1990. austin murphyf 1987 and george hansen of idaho in 1984. those who have had the centecene include -- memphis, tennessee is the next caller, good morning to you, larry. caller: good morning. over the prior eight years before obama got his office -- what did you say? host: i'm listening. caller: we have all this going on. we have two wars and we have all these people ripping us off. we havthe contractors in iraq ripping us off. all the rich people with this country off. -- rep this country off. -- rip this country off. they ran this country into the ground, the rich people did. and of poor people have nothing. obama, i voted for him, but he has not done anything except give poor people to der $50. -- $250. host: this is mike, a republican, good morning. caller: number one, thank you for c-span. secondly, is ironic that we were tried -- we would try prisoners from gtmo and get congressman are above the law. it is mind-boggling that they can get away with that. and they are not tried by a jury of their

that was congressman newt gingrich in 1997, barney frank in 1990. austin murphyf 1987 and george hansen of idaho in 1984. those who have had the centecene include -- memphis, tennessee is the next caller, good morning to you, larry. caller: good morning. over the prior eight years before obama got his office -- what did you say? host: i'm listening. caller: we have all this going on. we have two wars and we have all these people ripping us off. we have the contractors in iraq ripping us off. all the rich people with this country off. -- rep this country off. -- rip this country off. they ran this country into the ground, the rich people did. and of poor people have nothing. obama, i voted for him, but he has not done anything except give poor people to under $50. -- $250. host: this is mike, a republican, good morning. caller: number one, thank you for c-span. secondly, it is ironic that we were tried -- we would try prisoners from gtmo and get congressman are above the law. it is mind-boggling that they can get away with that. and they are not tried by a jury of