. >> stand up, frank nally. li is helping us to lead organization to a succession plan. i have the most wonderful staff in the world they think. these young people are learning every day. i pass on everything i can to our staff and our strategic plan is much different than most organizations. our strategic plan and do you want to say a couple of words about how we engage our entire management staff? that is a great question. >> thanks, well. i would start a saying that one of the hallmarks of a great leader is he or she thinks about the future. what needs to be done today so that the mission of the organization will thrive and will have an impact in the future and that is really why will is supporting and leading the strategic planning process. and like most or teach it planning processes, it's really important in a nonprofit to involve the board and the staff together, and then also to really throw the net wide in terms of who do we talk to, who do we ask about for the future and what is changing in the world ar