. >> frank o'bannon? >> frank o'bannon. i was running on a platform of change who just said, you know, "i kind of like the way things are. i don't know if i want your platform of change." i had a very acrimonious primary and that never healed over. and then one of the things that plague mayors, i think, who run for -- and that -- you know, at that time i'd never been an indianapolis resident. i'd been governor, not yet a mayor. not even a mayor, of course, but we had a little police controversy, a police brawl where elite police officers beat up some folks. and if you're mayor and you're running for governor and you can't keep things perfect in your city, it tends to be kind of an explosive issue in the campaign. so, in the end, i lost and he won and i went back to being mayor. >> why did you move to washington? >> so my last year as mayor i became the chief domestic policy advisor to george bush in the 2000 campaign, crafted his domestic agenda to some extent. condi rice did international and i did domestic. and then my wi