and joining us later in the show will be frank o'donnell.n chief of dc thompson's newspapers in aberdeenshire. that's including the press injournal and evening express. before that, he was editor of the scotsman, no less. and callum baird is editor of the national, the scottish paper launched in 2014. welcome to you all. callum, let's start with you. you must have one screen on this zoom call. by the way, unmute yourselves when you're speaking over the next 28 minutes or so. callum, you must have one screen on this zoom call and another fixed on a livestream from holyrood. yeah, i've been watching all day. what did you make of it? it's gone on and on and on and on, it keeps going down a few odd rabbit holes and going over the same ground over and over again. it's certainly been fascinating, i think, watching alex salmond's evidence last week. i think you can tell why these two people have been such significant figures in scottish and uk politics over the last ten years, because they are both extremely accomplished at this, and no question ha

o'donnell from washington. norah, good morning to you. this was a very frankvery direct interview. >> reporter: it really was. good morning. you know, a lifelong new yorker, charlotte bennett began working as an entry-level assistant to governor andrew cuomo in january, 2019. she called it a dream job. when cuomo became a celebrity for his handling of the pandemic, bennett says the attention emboldened him. and she alleges he began sexually harassing her. looking back on all of this, how would you describe governor cuomo? >> he is a textbook abuser. he lets his temper and his anger rule the office, but he was very sweet to me for a year in the hopes that maybe one day when he came on to me i would think we were friends, or that it was appropriate. or that it was okay. >> reporter: bennett says their professional relationship took a turn on may 15th when she alleges the governor started asking her about her love life and became fixated, repeating over and over again her history as a sexual assault survivor. >> so he goes, you were raped, you were raped, you wer