joining us is congressman frank pallone of the great state of new jersey. congressman pallone, thank you for joining us. i want to clear something up. when i post stuff about it, a lot of -- bless you, kelly. a lot of people come out and say, this is just a tax break for the rich! yes, it will benefit higher-income people. but let's be clear, in a state like new jersey, where property taxes on average-priced homes can be very high, this is not just an issue for higher-income people, is it? >> no, it certainly isn't. and what i hear from poem are seniors, retirees, people on fixed incomes that are really suffering. and i know you said it was a hidden tax increase, but it was a real tax increase for them. because all of a sudden, you know, they were paying thousands and sometimes $10,000 more in federal taxes. so it's hurting people that are on fixed incomes, retirees, seniors. those are the ones that are most concerned, and should be. >> and there are people that will come at, you know, come at us online, as well. and i'll represent them. although i want to b