did you see frank reynolds as a racist? >> guest: oh, i knew frank very well, and, you know, and the--this was a trio of broadcasters: frank and me and max. i was in london; frank, here; max, in chicago. i think max was wrong, but i think max was a--troubled deeply by the challenges of being black and being the first serious black anchorman in the country. it was a burden that--that people enhanced by asking him to be more sometimes than he was; died young, a troubled man in many ways. but i think he was wrong when he thought of frank as a racist. c-span: here's a photo of a man in wisconsin, president for 1,000 days. >> guest: yes. and--and so--somebody once said to us, when they first looked at this picture, 'you don't have to look at it from the front to recognize who it was.' c-span: his impact, in your opinion? >> guest: well, he's my first--he's my first president--person. we concentrate on five presidents in--in the book, he being one. i was in dallas shortly after he was assassinated. he--i--he--he was a great hero,