joining me, frank schaefer, author of why i am an atheist who believes in god.burns, pastor at harvest praise and worship center, member of donald trump's evangelical council. i want to start by asking the idea that donald trump feels like he innovated national day of prayer, that's not true i take it? >> that's not true, it started under president eisenhower with billy graham, that started in 1950 or '51. >> happens every year, annual day of prayer may 4th, that's the day there's national day of prayer. my great team, president barack obama named memorial day 2016 as national day of prayer. so it happens all the time. donald trump didn't make that up. one of the reasons we wanted to talk to you, you wrote a piece in response to the joel osteen kerfuffle in which he did not open the astro dome. 16,000 people it can fit. until he was dragged on social media and in the media for not opening his church. wrote the cheap prosperity gospel of trump and osteen. their brands are rooted in success, not scripture. hurricanes and floods do not providing winning narrative c