joining me is frank schaefer, author of why i am an atheist who believes in god, and frank, the goodews today sort of temporary good news that we will not see a nationwide ban on mifepristone, is good. but i think a lot of people are still nervous because this is still what really reads like a christian nationalist court. what do you make of it all today? >> well, joy, you know my background, my father francis schaefer was really the grandfather of the whole anti-abortion movement in terms of evangelicals that morphed into the christian nationalist movement that has taken over the republican party that does everything from keeping guns on our streets because this is the backbone of the nra, to closing abortion clinics, and now we have a ruling that has just been stayed as it were to try to ban what is known commonly as the abortion pill but listen, i just have to point something out. these are not legal rulings. none of these are. this is political matchination and planning by the hard core christian nationalists in the gop using people like judge kacsmaryk and alito and thomas and i