have anything in them so it's really very frank thomas just getting actual twitter feeds eat you've expressed some real frustration they look at some of the stuff that you've tweeted alz what are you spending your days doing are you afraid what is it just how do you feel about what's going on right now. everyone is too afraid to go out. we don't know who you could meet every time you go out you risk. contact with an infected person so we basically spend our days said maybe watching a few movies social media talking to your family that will. do you know why your government has not evacuated you and others were. thinking mind the last week the president said he has believed cheney is a full control of the situation and they have no need to evacuate well our prime minister you can an ambassador to china said we are safer here because if we turn to uganda we pose a greater risk their country because they are in no capacity to contain the virus think if one of us is infected and and spread it in the country can you understand that argument is if it doesn't do you at least appreciate that or does t

frank buckley with us. nullification is basically a form of secession. the idea is, and it goes back to thomas jefferson which by the way tells you a lot of the people who are revered american hero's are people who would have been sympathetic to some kind of secession. nullification is the idea that a state can nullify a federal law. if you nullify one federal law, you can nullify all of them. something drawn up by james madison was a lot later -- the ideas -- the idea is we are not saying we can nullify a law, what we can do is get in the way. we are not going to help enforce a federal law in any way. that is exactly what is going on right now with sanctuary cities and sanctuary states like california, that do not want to enforce immigration laws. it is a game that has been played by a lot of democratic states. and a lot of republican states. it goes back to the 1840's were northern states did not want to fugitive slave lost her this is part of our history. host: how did that usually end? guest: it plays out -- the fugitive slave laws were not much in force. that was a reason the south was un

frank when he was about. >> i accept -- franklin d roosevelt. >> i accept the commission and join with you. [applause] ♪ in 1948, strong third and fourth party movement affected the outcome of the elections. with thomasthe heavily favored republican candidate impeding with strom thurmond, the chief spokesman for the conservative states rights party at henry wallace, the choice of the small but enthusiastic liberal progressive party, harry truman on the democratic ticket walked away from the election as the victoire. this was one of the greatest electoral upsets in american history. ♪ -- as the victor. >> national conventions are a palooka process uniquely american -- a political process that is uniquely american. there are crowds, music thomas beaches and suspense. speeches andc, suspense. through the ballot box people determine who will assume the burden and power of the american presidency. ♪ steve, and looking at a film like this, i suppose there are some who would say well, this is all just tweedledum and tweedledee and really is not that important. elections do not really decide anything. what do you think? >> that passing parade of all those historical faces certainly suggests to me a personal

frank buckley with us this morning. two words i want you to define nullification and interposition. nullification is basically a form of secession. the idea is that it goes back to thomasjefferson which by the way tells you a lot of the people the revered american heroes are people who would have been sympathetic to some kind of secession. notification is the idea that a state can nullify federal law and if it can nullify one federal law that can nullify all of them into patties of secession. in a position in something dreamt uof somethingdreamt up b, jefferson's friend and it's a lot lighter the idea is we are not saying we can nullify the law only what we can do is get in the way. we are not going to help enforce a federal law in any way. that is exactly what is going on right now with the sanctuary cities and sanctuary states like california that don't want to enforce immigration laws. so we are there or for th theres a game that's been played by today a lot of democratic states and in the past by republicanee states. and if all goe it all goes backt the 1840s where northern states didn't want to enforce the fugitive slaves that's just part of our history. >> host:

frank buckley with us. nullification is basically a form of secession. the idea is, and it goes back to thomasferson which by the way tells you a lot of the people who are revered american hero's are people who would have been sympathetic to some kind of secession. nullification is the idea that a state can nullify a federal law. if you nullify one federal law, you can nullify all of them. something drawn up by james madison was a lot later -- the ideas -- the idea is we are not saying we can nullify a law, what we can do is get in the way. we are not going to help enforce a federal law in any way. that is exactly what is going on right now with sanctuary cities and sanctuary states like california, that do not want to enforce immigration laws. it is a game that has been played by a lot of democratic states. and a lot of republican states. it goes back to the 1840's were northern states did not want to fugitive slave lost her this is part of our history. host: how did that usually end? guest: it plays out -- the fugitive slave laws were not much in force. that was a reason the south was unhapp

frank buckley is with us this morning, two words out of what we want you to define. >> nullification is basically a form of secession. the idea is, and it goes back to thomasch by the way tells you a lot of the people i reviewed american heroes are sympathetic to some kind of secession. nullification is the idea that a state can nullify a federal law and if it can nullify one federal law then it could not nullify all of them in that secession. in a position with something trumped up by james madison, jeffersons friend and it's a lot lighter, the ideas were not saying that we can nullify along only what we can do is get in the way. we are not going to help enforce the federal law in any way, that is exactly what is going on right now with sanctuary cities and sanctuary states like california that do not want to enforce immigration laws. so, we are there already and it is a game that has been plagued by today a lot of democratic states and in the past by a lot of republican states. and it goes back indeed to the 1840s were northern states did not want to enforce the fugitive slave laws. so, this is part of our history. >> how did that game usually end? guest

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