frank thorpe, one of our producers, up there in boston.d to one south carolina committee woman who said she went in pretty skeptical of christie and came out a supporter. so that's a pretty big deal considering south carolina and new jersey are not exactly always aligned, chris. >> right, really good point. dom, one thing i want to get you on, for the democratic side, we spend so much time talking about hillary clinton, but howard dean going back to iowa, i'm pretty sure you agree with me, no politician goes to iowa by accident. what's dean up to? >> howard dean has said he would probably consider a run for president in 2016 if hillary clinton doesn't run. i mean, that is the big donkey in the room i guess you could say instead of elephant this time. that's the reality. there's a lot of people who would run if hillary doesn't run. joe biden, martin o'malley, howard dean or at least strongly consider it. i think that's something why not, go hang out in iowa, see what the temperatures are like. raise your hand, tell people you're still aroun