still with us frank wisner ambassador to india. in our wit washington studio, aa ayres, and from new york, arvin professor of indian political economy at columbia university. mr. ambassador, if you read the foreign affairs journals, people who are in the know confidently talk about one of the reasons we need a stronger india is to be a counterweight to china. is it that much of a chess game that we need to prove that a country like india could pull itself up under the umbrella of democracy as a counter model to the top-down chinese administration? >> you know, frankly, i don't look at it that way. and i'm quite confident the indians don't, and pursuing a relationship with india as a foil to china i think will get our country into a whole lot of trouble. i believe that the right way to think about the future of asia is with a series of balances. you got india to the south, indonesia, the philippines, thailand, and then korea and japan, all of which are part, all of which are on good terms with this country. you have an u.s.-china re