frank zappa testified in congress in 1985, called it an ill conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver benefits to children and infringes on the civil liberties of people who are not children. he was very articulate in making his case. he was actually kind of the hit of those hearings. particularly because of this amazing exchange with a florida senator named paula hawkins. behold. >> senator hawkins. >> you say you have four children? >> yes. >> pardon me? >> four children. >> have you ever purchased toys for those children? >> no, my wife does. >> well, i might tell you that if you were to go in a toy store which is very educational for fathers, by the way, it's not a maternal responsibility to buy toys for children, that you may look on the box and the box says, this is suitable for 5 to 7 years of age or 8 to 15 or 15 and above to give you some guidance for a toy for child. do you object to that? >> in a way, i do. because that means that somebody in an office someplace is making the decision about how smart my child is. >> i'd be interested to see what toys your kid's ever

. >> yes, morning with frank sinatra and in the evening with frank zappa and then in the afternoon, buckif you're able to do everything, the industry only wants you to do one thing and that's what they want to sell. and i think a lot of backup singers because of their versatility have a hard time figuring out what that singular thing is. >> judith hill, viewers may know her because she was going to be on the michael jackson tour, preparation for that tour that never happened, she got a lot of attention because she went very deep on the voice. but she even had a moment where, in between the jackson thing and "the voice" she ended up being a backup singer and she did it in disguise on television. people. >> it is. it's interesting when judith was on "this "the voice" she already made it she is a backup singer, but all the time we were making this show, judith was sleeping in her childhood bedroom in her parents house, trying to get a record deal. just because you are on the stage with michael jackson doesn't mean you have the route to stardom. but judith has been signed to a contract. osca

i did that with my favorite cinema whether it was frank zappa or we'll wierld, you watch those movies -- anyone can do that, art can do that. >> rose: you also create good roles for been women. >> powerful women has become a napalm to me for women starting with the fighter. right. and again i'm unrecognizable with that hair. the seven sisters, amy adams which was a role i helped create for her in that picture that showed a whole other side of her in the fighter. and then jennifer lawrence in silver linings play book and now jennifer and amy in this picture and elizabeth rome. >> rose: these are great women. >> women who can clean your clock in a way you don't see coming. they can surprise you, as irving says of the jennifer character she was the picasso. i love the awe. from the glamour. i said to amy and jennifer i want to see you as raw as i've seen you as powerful and as glamorous sexual all in one movie. it's scary. you ask everyone to take a risk, just like him. >> rose: do you have here in this film, do you feel any of this. you got a cadre of great actors and they're almost lik